ironman114

I know of many caches in National Forests. There are even houses built in National Forests. You should be OK but it's always best to check Of course some people say it's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. YMMV National Forests, yes. A piece of a National Forest that has been designated as a Wilderness Area... not so much. A quote from the Wilderness Act of 1964: They don't even allow bicycles in wilderness areas. I think leaving any man-made object in a wilderness area is going to run afoul of the rules. And yet peak registers are allowed, which are nothing more than a PVC tube or galvanized pipe with a log book to record your visit to that peak. Sounds like a geocache without trade items to me.

Exactly what I did: Disclaimer: The following persons should not attempt this cache: Children * Elderly People * Out of Shape People but most importantly, NO Whiners, Crybabies, and Wusses. PLEASE NOTE: Armchair logging of this cache is specifically NOT allowed. If you cannot retrieve the cache yourself, please do not log a find. Why rate a cache as a 5 if anyone can get within eyesight and log it as a find?

It Looks like you planned this one just right: Issued by The National Weather Service Seattle/Tacoma, WA 4:28 pm PDT, Sat., Mar. 27, 2010 "A FRONTAL SYSTEM WELL OFFSHORE THIS AFTERNOON WILL STRENGTHEN BEFORE MOVING THROUGH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. THE FRONT WILL BRING WINDY CONDITIONS TO WESTERN WASHINGTON... ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COAST SUNDAY NIGHT WHERE SUSTAINED WINDS OF 40 MPH AND GUSTS TO 60 MPH ARE POSSIBLE. THE STORM WILL BRING SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITATION TO WESTERN WASHINGTON SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. THE HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS WILL OCCUR OVER THE SOUTH SLOPES OF THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS... WHERE LOCAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS WILL LIKELY EXCEED 4 INCHES. THIS COULD DRIVE THE SKOKOMISH RIVER ABOVE FLOOD STAGE MONDAY OR MONDAY NIGHT. THE SNOW LEVEL WILL BE AROUND 4000 FEET SUNDAY NIGHT AND GRADUALLY FALL TO AROUND 2500 FEET MONDAY NIGHT."

One major reason I geocache is to get the exercise I need to keep my diabetes under control. So far, after four years, it's working like a charm. As I just mentioned in another thread, I also use geocaching as an excuse to visit places I've never seen before. --Larry I second Larry's reasons (although my diet plays a larger role in keeping my diabetes in control). I love visiting places I have never been before, especially if it involves 3-4 hours of hiking to get there. Today was my first real hike of the year at about 7-8 miles RT and 2400 feet elevation gain, and a return to the 600' elevation @ starting point.

Thanks for the reason to get my butt out the door. It felt good to get a hike in even if I did have trouble keeping my fingers warm.

Looks like I am going.

Except that many aren't listed in phone books. I checked my phone book and only 3 were listed in a 25 miles radius. I know of 3 in 3 miles none of them were listed. There are over a dozen or more know of in that radius. This cache wouldn't show up either: The Last Stop. It is an old cemetery with no known name and one recent inhabitant. You won't know The Secret of Smith Creek either unless you visit. Only 3 gravestones for its five inhabitants.

W7WT here: Wish i could help. 10 years ago I would have been willing and able. I will be 85 in April and got my ham call shortly after serving in the NAVY during WW2. First about 3 years ago i lost 3 or the 4 tendons attached to my right roto cuff. Not repairable but I have lost 95 % use of my right arm. Right now I have a aortic valve that needs replacing. so waiting until i develope any symptons before they operate. A minor excuse is we never go anywhere on the 4th of July. Stay at home and keep the fire works from burning down our home. Doubt if I can operate my electronic bug to operate CW. Gosh, I'm beginning to feel sorry for myself. 73 & 88 Dick, W7WT Wow. I wish I could make it to 85 before I need my aortic valve replaced. I have been having mine checked every 6 months for almost 2 years now. To the OP; July is too far in the future to plan right now. Ironman KF7AWY

One could build a ropeway above the log, using trees on both sides as support. And how would you propose getting a rope to the other side? Unless you have something to launch a rope across and into a tree then you would either have to cross the log or go down into the ravine and up the other side, at which point you could just log the cache, provided it is still there.

Well now this cache is temporarily unavailable. No this cache does not look very dangerous to me. I have been a timber faller and am currently an Ironworker that works as high as 500' on steel buildings bridges and TV towers. I have crossed smaller logs when cutting timber. I have been walking logs since my first time out with my dad at 15. Loggers don't use ropes to tie themselves to logs when they cross them. When an Ironworker falls into his safety system he usually has to have someone help him get back on the steel. If you don't feel safe DON'T DO IT!! Don't take my fun away because you don't feel safe. I take greater risks driving a Geo Metro for 100 miles each way to work and home every day in Seattle traffic.

I agree that Smartwool are the best I have owned. I like the Mountaineering Extra Heavy Crew best with 83% Merino wool. It is the heaviest cushioned wool sock I have seen in 30 years of working in construction. Just enough Nylon for wicking and elastic to stay up well and not unravel at the top. I wear them year round at work or hiking.

When my wife had her knee replaced it was awhile before she could do much. Then she did just easy ones that were a short walk. It was during this time she placed a wheelchair accessible cache in a swamp.

There are several active cachers in the Aberdeen area. Unfortunately they seldom venture into the forums. The are friendly and will get together to cache if you can contact them though.

We are saddened to hear of your loss. Please accept our condolences. Ironman IronMaiden

This is not the first time someone has taken a poor road in winter in Oregon. People using a GPSr for navigation should use common sense. The system does not discriminate back roads from highways and if the road doesn't look good, don't take it. I think for myself while on the road and I am not a slave to the nav system I'm using. This needs to be especially the case in winter when some roads do become impassible. Those units most certainly do discriminate back roads from highways. However, they do not give people common sense. While my Magellan Maestro I have in my truck will differentiate between highways and other roads, but it will only do so if the map software in it is accurate and up to date. It will not say whether it is a gravel or a paved road. NF roads may be either. It is not when it comes to the road I live on. It tries to get me to turn into the fairgrounds and drive through it to get to the closed end my road on the other side One end of it was closed 20 years ago due to right of way issues with the RR. The right of way was removed along with 40 feet of road. That was the end used the most at that time. It still shows on most mapping software to this day. I have had to give numerous people turn by turn instructions to get to my house because neither their gps or online mapping can find the right entrance to my road. It also doesn't say my road is gravel not blacktop and is private.

The Future is NOW!! Sweet machine! Looks like you could explore Mars with that! But that isn't what your insurance company is going to pay for if you, for example, rupture your Achilles tendon or a major leg bone fracture. Actually, I doubt that your brother's insurance would have paid for anything close to that (I hear you that you are not impying that in your post, by the way). My point is that the 1T rating needs to be reserved for the lowest common denominator of wheelchair caches and wheelchair cachers. Actually my brother wouldn't want one like that. He couldn't climb into the drivers seat of his 72 Nova or his S10 blazer and pull it into the seat next to him. Now explain what is the lowest common denominator of wheelchair cachers?? Paraplegic, quadriplegic, hospital type chair or the type many other permanent ambulatory wheelchair bound people use

My brother has been in a wheelchair since he had a logging accident 20 years ago. He is considered a "quad" even though he does have use of his hands, just not fine motor skills like writing well or a strong grip. He does have to be careful about leaning to far or he falls out due to no abdominal muscles. It has never stopped him from going across a lawn or grass. He even drives and raised a son as a single parent. The Future is NOW!!

It is a game for fun to me. But my idea of fun doesn't include arrows or ribbons or other such marking to find a cache. My idea is to use my gps and my imagination to find the cache.

Anonymity is what you make of it at gc.com. There need be no personally revealing details in your profile at all. The trailname can be Bozo the Clown. Unless/until you spill the beans to someone, no one outside of gc.com will have a clue unless they start stalking you to caches! You don't have to reveal personally revealing details on your profile. As soon as you cache with another person your name may be revealed to others. Even if you ask that your name and identity not be revealed it soon slips out and them many know who cacher XYZ is. Been there. Too many know my alter ego I created specifically for adopting anonymously a classic local cache.

I could very well be wrong. But this cache has Liar's Cache written all over it. So what if it is. There is something to find there and I guess with 206 watchers there are more than a few that enjoy reading the logs/stories.

These would go good tracking up to this cache just across the valley from me. Strap these on your kids for lots of tracks.

Of course we have to have the obligatory shot of TotemLake falling down!

It didn't really matter to me whether it is a PMO cache or not. I just wanted to go hike. I now know where we are heading and it is a cache I recently added to my to do list. I do have a NW Forest pass. I am coming from the South and will be picking Criminal up in Tacoma.

I was thinking about going. I even talked with Criminal about it tonight. He wants to try his new snowshoes. Then I looked to see where we would be heading, but since I am not a premium member I can't.

Maybe she could use one of these: Tank Chair