rkelso

I tested my CO to see if by some magical change I had one that worked. Nada. Just a steady falling line. I'd love to do anything if it would help... bugging Garmin with phone calls? I just want it to work. Sounds like, from your experience, they are no longer replacing units for this problem?

Sure, that makes sense, I misread what you said. Would be a neat feature for sure. Since Garmin won't even implement simple features to existing products like being able to change the coordinates of a geocache on the CO, I doubt we'll ever see it though.

OK, you don't understand what I'm talking about. Have fun with your Nuvi, just don't run out of batteries.

I think you're right on... as attractive as a complete Jack-of-all trades, master of ALL solution is, I don't think it's possible. And not just for GPSr's... reminds me a lot of boat shopping. You need your big river boat, your small river boat, your saltwater boat, your lakes boat, etc. etc.

Yeah, you're right, you do see more on the screen in general because the screen has a lager area. But Colorado/Oregon screen is half an inch taller, so with track-up turned on, you see more of what is in front of you, enhanced by how it moves your current position lower on the screen. The trail may wiggle or change directions, but I think I'd rather always see more of what is in front of me, in the direction of travel. That's just my preference, and I'm glad we've got so many choices.

I've heard of Trackback several times but am ignorant on the subject... what is it?

Higher sensitivity receivers are more susceptible to errors from multi-pathing, which would create a bias if you are sitting in one location trying to average a good waypoint. Not to mention other factors that will bias your results. Averaging doesn't correct those biases and may give a false sense of accuracy... maybe that's why they don't include it. It's my theory, anyway.

I disagree... our shop produces lots of maps of all shapes and sizes, including lots of "portrait" oriented maps. All depends on what you want to see. I actually think the portrait screen orientation of hand held recreational units is superior much of the time because it is common to use track-up map orientation, and you can see further ahead of you with this screen shape. Just my opinion

I just got a Colorado 400T and I haven't added any other maps to it. I'm trying to decide if I should get these maps or City Navigator. I don't venture out of Washington/Oregon much so the coverage of the 24k maps would be fine, I think. The question is, would the topo maps add anything to what comes standard in the 400T? Mainly interested in campgrounds and trails. To make a case for City Navigator over the Topo 24k with routable roads, would CN include more POIs such as gas stations and restaurants?

Silicone based lubricants should be OK. The one I picked up says rubber and plastic safe on the back of the can. By the way, I was able to pick up several o-rings at the hardware store that look to be suitable replacements for the SD card slot o-ring if the need arises.

On the Colorado, if you are navigating to a Geocache and you switch the Trip Computer between Automotive and Recreational, does it switch between On Road/Off Road routing modes? Or does that just modify the look of the Trip Computer screen? I can't test since I don't have CN.

You can set one of your data fields in the full screen map to GPS accuracy... or one of the fields in the Trip Computer.

GO$Rs, maybe I'm mis-understanding what it is you aren't fond of about the Colorado's geocaching mode (besides the lack of geocaches on Recent Finds, I get that) but this is what I've found. If you are in the Geocaching profile on the Colorado go Shortcuts > Geocaches, select a cache, hit Options > Go To Location. This brings up your normal map view without cancelling the navigation to the cache. At this point you can access all of your favorite goodies like Trip Computer and Calculator while navigating to the geocache. I haven't had my CO for even a week so forgive me if you already knew this stuff...

I do basically the same thing, but after I lock the clip in the battery cover just slips back a little bit (the gap gets a little wider again). I think it's because the o-ring around the SD slot is a little too snug for things to fit completely well, but hopefully that creates a tight seal. I removed the SD slot o-ring temporarily and the battery cover fit more snugly.

Actually, I'd say accuracy is paramount. Something the Colorado seems to struggle with sometimes. IMO, this whole forum is obsessive compulsive about accuracy, wasting untold amounts of e-ink going in circles. For my purposes, backpacking in Colorado's mountains, anything within 50-feet is awesome. I have eyes and a brain, which are my primary navigation tools, the GPS and more specifically the maps within help me make decisions about the path to take, often like the screenshot, where no path exists, just black timber. Geocaching requires a bit more accuracy than it takes to choose which trail to take, I think. Besides, the technology is capable of delivering 10-15ft accuracy and considering the premiums paid for these devices, they should deliver with consistency.

Have you tried selecting a waypoint from the map and deleting it? I'm wondering if this will crash the OR too, or if it is a step or two ahead of the CO in that regard.

I'm assuming you are referring to the Compass page? If so, it looks almost identical to the Colorado screen shots. I don't have time to put one up now but I think Garmin's site might have a picture. Not sure what you mean by accuracy. Maybe calibration? If so, calibration needs to be done through the Setup menu - you can't do it from the Compass page directly. The later is IMHO a significant flaw with the Colorado and even more so with the Oregon user interface. If I want to configuration anything associated with the map, compass, odometer, altimeter, etc. then I should be able to do it all from that tool's page. The CO lets you do some of that (i.e map selection on the map page) the OR doesn't let you do any of it -- you always have to exit the tool, goto Main->Setup select the tool you want to configure make the change and go back. Unless, of course, I just haven't found it yet -- still learning! GO$Rs I think he meant showing GPS accuracy as a data field, maybe on the compass page?

I realize this is OT, but you've already been told it ain't going to happen. Sorry. I just got my first touchscreen yesterday, a Nuvi. For gross navigating a finger is great, but for that last bit of precision, for 24K Topos, a stylus is needed. I used a toothpick. What do you use/suggest? That makes no sense. We're navigating to a set of coordinates. Why would a stylus be needed to enter coordinates? You do realize we're talking about the Oregon, right? I think maybe his point was, to select a point on a map such as a waypoint, geocache, intersection, trail, etc., be it for navigation or whatever, might be a little difficult without a stylus. Especially for those of us with large fingers. I was a little miffed that the OR was announced as my new CO was in transit to my house, but the more I think about it, the touch screen might sound a little better on paper than it works in the field for this type of GPSr. Mainly because I don't want to have to carry around and always be whipping out a stylus.