ladyleo191

I've learned that I don't have to find every cache in my state, or even my town. It won't hurt the feelings of the hider if I don't find their micro hidden on the back of a street sign. It won't mean I'm a bad cacher if I don't want to spend my time looking for it. I don't have to beat myself up if I can't locate the bison tube. I've learned that if the location is interesting, the cache is just icing on the cake. I've seen parts of my area I didn't know were there and learned about musicians and actors I didn't know were born, or lived, or were buried nearby. I didn't find the cache, but I learned some history. I've learned that caching is an individual sport and folks play it for different reasons. I do it to relax. Others do it to see if they can find all caches in a series and others do it to solve puzzles. Each of us is doing it right. I've learned I have to get a third job...to travel to New Zealand, Australia and Europe with my lil eTrex.

Just because there are no "social event" caches, please don't assume cachers aren't socially aware. I work two jobs. Nearly 50 percent of my 2nd salary is used for social purposes. First, I volunteer with an animal rescue. I transport (using gas and therefore money), I donate gift cards to them and I donate cash. In addition, a friend's church has a mission that pays tuition for high school educations in a non-industrial country. I donate for at least one student yearly. They also buy bicycles for the villages, since roads and cars are nearly non-existent there. Several of my Christmas gifts consist of donations in the name of family members to organizations that buy livestock or issue business loans to people in developing countries and the participants are required to repay, either in money, or kind, for those funds. That helps them help others. I cache to get away from the things I experience at my primary job. I've seen things in my careers that I won't discuss with others and I make sure what leisure time I have is spent having fun and not thinking. All I want to see is a gorgeous sunrise, a lazy hawk on the wing, or the sparkle of frost 'diamonds' on a field I'm hiking. Please don't infuse any other type of'experience' into caching. I just don't think it is necessary or an improvement. You can always get a second job to make a social impression, if you don't already do as I do.

The attitude you notice may have something to do with your use of phrases like "arbitrary rules"by the cache owner and the fact that you see nothing wrong with it as long as there are any "cemetery-originated" rules against night hunts. It came across to me, and possibly to others, as an indication that you don't think rules should be obeyed unless you think they have a reason that applies to you. It almost appeared to me that you felt cache owners were restricting you beyond what you feel entitled to as a finder and their rules weren't important. If I misinterpreted your post, I apologize, but that was how I read your OP.

Please use the online log to be detailed and let the community know about your adventure. Not just for the CO, but for all of us. I'm one of those folks who notices where other members are registered when they post. I love to read about all the caches they have found and/or own. I also look at listings for those banner pictures on the homepage at the top. I will probably never get to see a Norwegian fjord in person, or a beautiful view near Ayers rock, or even a tidy little sheep farm in Wales, but I can live vicariously through your online logs and uploaded pictures. edited because I can't spell BC (before coffee)

...and in North Carolina

Edited for double post due to fatal error.

[ I was wondering what the rationale behind cache owners setting arbitrary "rules" that restrict finding their caches to during the day. Is there any rationale behind this... because I see nothing wrong at all with caching at night, day, whenever, as long as we are following the rules of geocaching... CITO and leave no trace.] There doesn't need to be a rationale for the rule. The cache owners decide under what circumstances their cache is hunted. It's after all, their cache. I'm sure you feel the same way about your property. Whether you see anything wrong with it or not is beside the point. It's not your property and you aren't entitled to do as you please.

Not all geocachers have the capability, either. and I'm one of them. I always hate it when my equipment is smarter than I am.

I have to say that I have found one cemetery cache and didn't feel good about it after I finished, even though only the first stage of a puzzle cache was on cemetery property. The problem I have with the idea is that I read way too many logs that say things like "Oops, I didn't read the page before hunting and didn't realize no night hunts are allowed." Or, "I didn't feel like walking, so I just drove across (private land) the field." Or, on a nature trail, "I just bushwhacked to the cache, since the trail went the long way around." Our community is supposed to be respectful of others' lands and make little impact on the environment, but there is a micro I have hunted that is obviously in a beautiful stand of cedar trees. I know which one. Why? Because finders have broken or damaged the limbs in an area the size of a basketball on that tree. So do I really believe that all cachers will treat a cemetery with reverence? Not a chance...and I won't hunt another one. I know the majority of cachers are respectful, but even one bad one is more than we need. I know other groups exhibit bad behavior in cemeteries, but one less group means a bit less disrespect.

I agree with Sportside. I like a nice puzzle that might require a bit of thought or research, but if the puzzle designer is just on an ego trip to show me that he/she is smarter than me, I won't give them the pleasure. I cache for fun and if it becomes work, then I'll stop caching and go back to work.

Are there hiders whose caches I ignore? Yep, I can think of one right off the top of my head. I have attempted a couple of their hides and came away less than happy with the experience. Most are micros and while I occasionally look for micros, they aren't my first choice. The problem is that I'm familiar with the hiding areas and they would, as a general rule, support a larger cache that families would enjoy. Most children in a large park or wooded area enjoy something besides a BYOP nano. One of theirs has numerous logs asking the CO to verify coordinates, because no one finds it using hers. Another hasn't been found since summer of 2007 and maintenance isn't noted. Still another has been missing (per a previous finder of that cache) since early Spring of this year. Most listing pages have moving GIFs, or HTML, or some other computer letter thingies that I find distracting while I read. Sorry, they just get on my nerves and I shouldn't have to change any settings on my computer just to read a cache page. So, while that particular CO may have fun hiding those kinds of caches, I don't have fun trying to find them. They play the game their way and I play it mine.

It's easy as pie (and what a sweet idea!) You just don't put the cache on here. Simply give her a card or something with the first waypoint and turn her loose! Gosh, I'm really smiling about all the thought that went into your plan. Let us know what she says!

I cache when I get the chance...even in a Tropical Storm this summer. The great part was that muggles weren't an issue. The awful part was that I squished all day. I can't say what winter weather will bring, but I am not a fan of ice-covered guardrails, so I probably will stay home those days and figure out solutions to Puzzle caches, or gather ingredients for a cache to hide when it gets nice weather.

Hoobiboo, may I make a few suggestions? Please take them in the spirit they are intended. Even though your residents may not be wheelchair-bound, have plenty of handicapped accesible caches. Some folks may not feel as physically fit some days and I'd hate for them not to be able to participate. Don't do all Micros if you will have children involved. Their enjoyment will wane quickly if there isn't some 'loot' to be found on the treasure hunt. Some Micros are fine, just to have a variety of difficulty levels. Try to mix up the camo types. Tupperware, film canisters, hollow logs...the list is endless. Be creative. Make sure the flyers, or notices have some hints. Even on a good day, co-ords can be off and Not Found isn't a lot of fun. Don't worry about not listing the caches online, just distribute your flyers to residents and have a great time. Thank you for having this event. Good luck with it!

Could you have the finder put size and color in their Found It log and PM you with their name and address? You may have to mail the shirt, if the finder isn't local, but most shirts will be lightweight enough to be just a dollar or so in a poly mailer.

tibiver, vous ne pouvez pas faire une virtual cache plus. Vous pouvez aller à www.Waymarking.com et faire une cache la. Pardonnez ma pouvre utilizie votre langue.

It was mentioned in an eBay discussion board that I post on a few months ago. I'd never heard of it bofore that.

Succotash, thanks for the tip about holding the publishing. I wouldn't have thought of that since I didn't know the reviewers were able to do things like that. As for the puzzle or multi, I was kicking that idea around. Thanks again.

I do indeed read the description before I hunt a cache. I wish everyone did. My first hide is a perfect example. It clearly states in the description that the cache is on private property and the landowner requested no nighttime hunts. There is also a caveat about respect for the man's property. So...what happens? The FTF happened after 10 pm! And another cacher...who for some reason decided not to park and walk from the very obvious driveway...drove across the man's land to retrieve the cache! Just one more incident and I'm going to archive a kid-friendly, pet-friendly rural cache that isn't just another Micro. I have 3 more caches ready to place, but I haven't figured out a way to require the cache page to be read, so I probably won't hide them. I think technology is great and being able to download coordinates without looking at the cache page certainly makes it easier, but sometimes, the old-fashioned way is necessary.

There are a couple of ways. One, on the Found It logs for the caches they were in, if you scroll to the bottom of that page, there's a box to enter the traveler's tracking number. That will take you to the specific bug or coin's personal page. Two, from the homepage, you can look at the links on the left side. Trackable Items is one of them Click and the page that appears has all kinds of clickable links about the items, including Logging A Trackable. Sorry I can't just send you links to log them. I'm not really computer savvy.

I read the User's Agreement, but seem to have either overlooked, or forgotten that one. Can you please explain this one? I cache with friends and don't want to anger TPTB.

I've been a loyal KK customer for nearly 50 years and they've never offered me a GPSr! Some folks have all the luck

Uhhh, folks....it is published here.

I'm not an experienced cacher, so take my advice with a grain of salt. I don't like stealth caches. I work in a high-stress environment and caching is about relaxing to me. Because the urban caches are more prolific, I do have to hunt them, but I don't prefer it. My one hide is a rural, out-of-the-way cache. It isn't really scenic, unless the little valley with the leaves turning in autumn is your idea of scenic, and that red-tailed hawk circling overhead is pretty to you. The one thing I wanted my cache to do was give kids a place to jump out of the car and run around searching. I didn't want them to worry about manicured landscaping, or being quiet so muggles wouldn't notice them. Here, they can jump and yell at one another "I found it, nyah nyah!" No one is going to fuss at them and they can find some pretty rocks and chase lizards and be kids. They can even bring their dog and he can bark without being hushed. I truly like the historic and intellectual caches, but sometimes, it's just about walking around in the woods. *JMHO*

Sean, I'm new too and I have more luck on larger caches. Micros are just too hard for me as a rookie. I also have found that reading other people's Found It logs helps, too. If experience folks log it as 'evil' or difficult because of the camo, I give it a pass unless I really am in the mood for a challenge that day. Other experienced folks will be by to give you lots more advice.