derangedlunatech

Ohhh... nice call on the sarcasm!

I'd be a bit concerned about how long the fish had been sitting in the cahce...

If properly done, I think it would be a wonderful thing. Here's a coin I found recently in a cache: http://www.geocaching.com/track/details.as...2a-66a27095a73f

To be honest, there just want's enough angst for me. 3.5 tops.

Upgraded to 3.3.9 this morning, and everything seems to be running great! Even my update button is now working! However, I was re-reading some of the early posted info on functionality, and it raised 2 dumb "back to basics" questions for me if you all wouldn't mind... 1. I noted that the macro deletes the old gpx files and replaces them with the newly generated files. How exactly does this interact with the POI Loader? What I mean is - do I also need to delete the old waypoints out of the Nuvi (as I have been doing), or does the loader overwrite the previous info? 2. What about importing the files into GSAK? When I import a PQ, do the existing entries get updated (finds, archives, etc)? Or do I need to continue (as I have been) to remove all the waypoints before I import the new file? I have a feeling that I've been making this harder on myself than I need to...

Awesome - I'll definitely be keeping my eye on this one! Thanks

I only have 1 FTF, and the prize to me was seeing a clean log and how the CO initially stocked the cache. That said, my first cache (which is made up and waiting for a good place to plant it) does have a somewhat special (although not pricey) "signature" item intended to go the the first finder of our first cache. Just something a little personal...

Hi - this sounds awesome! A few questions, if I may... 1. I'm pretty new to geocaching, and although I'm very interested in geocoins (and really love the few I've found and so far), it's not something that is much within my budget at this time. That said - would you even consider me if I volunteered? 2. The 4 caches in 4 weeks - will those be preselected caches? Or will the volunteers select them? 3. I assume from the way you wrote this that the time limit for the 4 caches is 4 weeks. In other words, a volunteer could do all 4 in a week and send the coin back - correct?

I'm personally waiting in breathless anticipation for the next size mast nano - the "molecular" size

Fair enough lol

I usually look at them and say "Big whoop. Wanna fight about it?" (I'm sure someone will get the reference)

I think you also forgot: - People don't write essays as log entries. - People don't do this exactly the same way that I do, and are therefore doing it wrong. - My caches that are in violation of the site rules and/or laws and/or common sense don't get approved. - People in the forums seem to think that they can be as rude, nasty, and crappy toward me as I am toward them. What gives them that right?

Glad I could help If you "need a friend" who has one of these, feel free to contact me through the profile page, and I'll help as much as I can. I'm pretty new to this myself, but I'm learning how to make the 200w sing and dance a little bit to make caching with it a little better.

I cache with a 200w, and it's not too terrible. First off, make sure you are using the sat screen to get in close (hold down on the antenna/signal strength indicator for a few seconds). That will give precise lat/long numbers - far better than relying on the flag. Sometimes it will be off - sometimes all GPS units will be off. Cloud cover, trees, restricted "view" such as canyons can hinder accurate readings. A few things I note from the 2 caches you noted were: On the first one, there is no listing of what the cache size was. You don't know if you're looking for something about the size of a pencil eraser, or a big rubbermaid storage container. Also, it was rated 2.5/2.5 - not necessarily the easiest find (especially if you don't know what you're looking for). On the second one, it was rated 1/1, but was listed as a micro. Again, this could be from the size of a pencil eraser to the size of a small keychain pill container. Again, kinda tough to spot. My personal suggestion - look for larger containers and easier ratings at first to get the feel for it. After a few good finds, you start to develop a sense for where it is likely (or unlikely) that a cache might be hidden. Also realize that you will have days (well, at least I do) where you could be standing in he middle of a parking lot looking for an elephant that is standing 5 feet away from you and trumpeting at you, and you still won't find it

Converseley, I've also run across nanos marked as unknown or other (can't recall which). I generally tend to try to filter out (for now) the "sub-small" varieties until I get a bit more used to hiding techniques, but some nanos slip through because of this. (And before anyone gets their feathers ruffled - this is not a comment on the quality of macros/nanos - it's a comment on my ability to find them) My opinion is that either the definition of "micro" should be expanded to include all "sub-small" containers, or another category should be added.

There are proper ways to question and challenge the rules. But when said rules are based on the laws of a state (or nation) then you need to address the laws, not those who are abiding by them. Simple common sense dictates that. I think the rules are pretty clear. And as with most rules, there is a way to ask for an exception. It seems to work for the overwhelming majority of the users here. Sure it is. What I think you fail to understand is that by voluntarily deciding to play here, you are agreeing to the terms, conditions, and rules. Sure it is fine to question and opine on them, but when demands such as "I won't accept it" are made, then all you are doing is throwing a temper tantrum and demanding to get your way. If you don't like the rules, then don't play - it is that simple. No-one suggested that you leave the country. And by all means involve yourself in social change - just be prepared for a surprise when you discover that making demands will not, in and of themselves, bring change. "We are just expected to blindly accept the decisions of people who happen to be selected by TPTB? I'm sorry - I don't accept this in any other aspect of life, and I certainly wouldn't accept it here." That is certainly not respectful, nor is it a mere disagreement. It is a demand that things MUST be done your way. And to most rational and intelligent people, namecalling and insults don't really fall into the category of "respectful." The simple fact of the matter is that you really have 2 choices - you can accept the rules, or you can go away. Quite frankly, either option is fine with me.

So let me make sure I understand your position correctly. 1. You plant caches that are not in keeping with the guidelines and expect them to be published anyway. 2. You expect to bully the reviewers into publishing these caches that are in violation by calling them names and throwing temper tantrums. 3. You try to gain support by coming to the forums, throwing temper tantrums, and calling people names, the get all butt hurt when your posts that are in violation of the TOU achieve about as much success as your caches which are in violation. 4. You then think you will get support by bullying and insulting other forum members who don't agree with you. Do I have that about right? I'm willing to bet that you don't treat people face to face in this same way, knowing what it would likely earn you. Why do you expect it to be different online? I know I'm certainly not impressed by internet tough guys who are under the irrational belief that they can somehow intimidate and bully people online...

There's lots of good info in that thread. Might want to browse it when you have the time.

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...ost&p=90561 PS: In terms of internet chat, typing in all caps is considered the equivalent of yelling. Shhhhhh

"A better outcome" by who's standards - yours? Your standards are only superior within your own system of values - not necessarily in the standards of others. I'll give you an example. I like caching with my 6 year old. While I personally don't care much for the standard LPC, he gets excited over every cache we find, no matter how mundane it may seem to me. While I might like more difficult terrains and hides (and sometimes look for them alone), I'll take an LPC with Geobuddy over one that I can't do with him 95% of the time. To you, that might not be quality. To me, it is, and I challenge you to tell me how that is wrong. By all means, do try to influence it to go the way you want it to go - but remember to stay within your circle of influence. Don't waste your time on caches you know you won't enjoy. Don't waste your time trying o get others to see "the error of their ways" if they aren't playing the way you think it should be played (as long as the way that they play is within the rules, that is). Plan and plant more interesting and challenging caches - the kind you would enjoy doing. But don't expect to change the entire game to suit your preferences - because it's not ever going to go that way, and don't expect that others will change just because you want them to. Personally, I think it is fantastic that this has been adapted to include people who wouldn't have been able to do it in the "old days." There will be parents with kids who want to play, that can't hike some of the trails that you could. There are people in wheelchairs who might find crossing 100' of grass in a park to be as challenging as a 5 mile hike up a canyon is for you. That freeway rest area cache that bores you to tears might be the ideal thing for a family that is traveling, and want to let the kids get out, stretch, and blow off some steam. That easy cheesy tupperware P&G might be all that someone who is on a business trip has time to find so they can drop off a geocoin or TB that they brought with them to drop off. I personally think that it's great that this "game" can be so flexible and adaptable that it can have something for everyone of varied interests and abilities.

I was thinking the same thing. Being mostly restricted to urban/suburban caching, I really enjoy and apreciate little gems like that. Why did they pick that? Who knows. Maybe they saw a hollow tree stump and no other caches within .1 mile. On the other hand, maybe they used to come here as a child to pick blackberries with their grandmother who passed 20 years ago. Never know.

*chuckles* "geocaching" + "not sacrificing my dignity"? Does not compute...

Deleted my comments - didn't realize this was a regional posting.

I think a few people have hit on a key issue here when they mention evolution. Not just of the game, but of society and the world we live in. There was once a time where you could ride a horse pretty much anywhere. Such is not the case today, and if riding horses is your thing then you probably have to put some effort into determining where would be a good place to go and do it. I'm sure that people who ride horses pretty much accept this and are willing to put the effort into doing their research and preparation in order to maximize their experience. This applies to just about any hobby. Is the game evolving in and of itself, or is it evolving because the world and society around us is evolving? How many decent cache locations are now gone because of development, or because of concerns about security and liability? Everything changes. I remember growing up in a quiet suburban area in a small town, and the entire neighborhood was grounds for giant games of hide n' seek, cops and robbers, tag, or capture the flag - dashing from yard to yard, cutting between houses, and everyone was fine with it. When I went home to visit my parents a few years ago, I went to take a walk around my old neighborhood (staying strictly on the streets, mind you) and someone called in a "suspicious person" report on me to the cops. Things change, we don't have to like it. Some Eastern philosophies talk about the concept of the river. It will flow as it wants to, whether you like it or not. You can try to fight it and you'll get nowhere. You can try to block it, but it will flow over, around, and eventually through whatever you put in its way. Or, you can accept it for what it is, and find a way to appreciate it.

When I was growing up, I used to love being ouside, in the woods, hiking... Over time, I moved away from that (priorities), but I still miss it. Caching for me has given me some motivation to get back to it. Unfortunately I'm also somewhat hindered in it by a small child, and a wife who hasn't spent much time in the woods. We're working on those things. I do have to confess that out of your list, I'm not a big fan of the poison ivy. I prefer to stay away from it when possible. The rest of what comes along with the outside and the woods don't bother me at all