uperdooper

you'll be driving within 2 miles of me when you drive through flint, mi.

so, geocaching.com isn't allowed to change their own guidelines? if every business was like that we would still be driving around in model-Ts and all FORD cars would be black.

some of my best friends are geocachers!

the world is full of gurks! get used to it.

it saved my sanity after an 11 month stay here by my crazy aunt, and is now saving my sanity after the death of my husband and all of the sturm und drang that goes with it. last fall i started going to some monthly local events and have made a few friends. add the little people that live in my computer and i'll be just fine.

no. that is not weed.

Hey, what's wrong with my home town? the same thing that's wrong with mine. i was born in Flint, went to school in swartz creek and now live in mt. morris. the auto city cachers are doing a heck of a job trying to keep caching going in genesee county. come to one of their meetings sometime. second tuesday of every month at the tim horton's on corunna and linden roads. i still won't go into the city unless i'm packing and have a few people with me. I've hit up a few of your caches but since I live in Swartz Creek but work in Lansing, I can never get home in time to attend your meetings. I've wanted to come but they're too early for me to get there. When did you go to Swartz Creek? I graduated in 82. 1974.

Hey, what's wrong with my home town? the same thing that's wrong with mine. i was born in Flint, went to school in swartz creek and now live in mt. morris. the auto city cachers are doing a heck of a job trying to keep caching going in genesee county. come to one of their meetings sometime. second tuesday of every month at the tim horton's on corunna and linden roads. i still won't go into the city unless i'm packing and have a few people with me.

Flint, MI

I had that problem once. My credit card had expired and i needed to update my card info for geocaching.com.

aren't you worried that your FTF might spoil the fun for someone else? what do you want? a bunch of people standing around waiting for someone else to get the FTF? might as well make it an event.

wouldn't that be a commercial cache?

i guess they should just make a new 'guideline' saying no caches within 528' of a business. heaven forbid there should be a stop and rob, ice cream stand, pizza place or business that accepts $$ close to a cache or i will feel compelled to purchase something just because i've done a cache there. there is a mantra i'm always seeing in these forums that if you are uncomfortable doing a cache then don't do it. events are always being held in restaurants and no one kvetches about them. maybe they should be forced to hold all event caches in the middle of a field so people won't spend $$ at them. yeesh!

This old "I don't see how it's different than..." canard is pretty weak and seems, at best, incredibly disingenuous. The commercial guidelines are not as complicated as some people make them out to be. Simply placing a cache in close proximity to a business isn't necessarily commercial (though it's probably not a great idea from a permission standpoint). Mentioning the business by name or extolling the virtues of the business in the cache description is commercial. There's really no reason why a cache owner needs to dig in his/her heels over the issue - be creative, work with the reviewer, get it sorted out. There are lots of really interesting places that also happen to be businesses, and it is very possible to make great caches without making fellow geocachers feel like you're exploiting them for commercial gain. i can't see where the business names are mentioned in the caches and extolling the virtues of a business nearby is not commercial in my opinion. people need to stop getting their short curlies in a bunch about this. if a person feels exploited then don't do the cache. no one is forcing anyone to spend money to get these caches.

i don't see how this is any more commercial than the cracker barrel or walmart LPCs.

my brother made me do it.