lamoracke

I would vote for locationless caches to be brought back for a limited time, like a retro weekend or something fun like that. Perhaps open up a few old ones that already exist, with CO permission, and then archive and lock them afterwards. Or new ones, whatever. Personally I would choose the souvenir penny machine one if an old one was brought back. Souvenirs with them, that would be okay, but I would just love to log one, or a few, partly for the icon yes. I like their idea too, wish I was around back in 2005 so I could have done them. Have cached for over 6 years now and wish I could get that icon somehow.

Oh c'mon. One comment about "I don't trust anyone with more finds than me" made by a person with 9,000 or so finds, if I remember correctly, and a few of us took the ball and ran with it for comedic effect. We apparently had leapfrogging going on with caches that had clues to a final in them, and this is inexcusable. So is logging finds for caches you were not physically present at. All "power trails" are not the ET trail, or Route 66, or where ever else people who are into that stuff congregate. Was just continuing the sarcasm of high # of finds, nothing more.

If a cache is in a lamp post in a muggle parking lot, unless there is someone in the car right next to it, I will just go after it as if no one is around. Some places are so high volume that if you stand there and try to wait out the entire world, you will draw more attention to yourself than if you just went for it. If its potentially a very hard hide or not obvious (like under a picnic table and folks are eating there) I won't do that. However, if its an obvious lamp post, I will just go right to it. Just one example and its not a hard fast rule. I have skipped caches in my day, I have waited out people or came back to spots but if you put one in a lamp post, I am not going to be stealthy about it.

I remember being annoyed in a state on vacation when doing some geoart, I DNFed like 5 caches and then someone from out of the area, without CO permission, replaced them on his/her own and claimed the finds. Was annoying as I got confirmation from the CO they were not there and this person logged them all the day before me or so but its hard to prove they were not there if you have no log to prove it. Either way, yeah, I do find it annoying that some cachers will do whatever it takes to make a log on a cache even if its not there. What is so wrong about a DNF? I have replaced a few containers in my day but I always try to get owner approval either in advance or in rare cases if I think I know the person, after I mention it to them to see if they are cool with it. However, have over 10k finds, so I won't be taken seriously in this and have done over 100 a day twice.

Yeah yeah, your first day as king will eradicate lab caches and puzzles, you will flip a coin which order. I did the winery lab cache in question and I have done the beer ones the last two years at Groundspeak. They have all been ones I could take my 5 year old to. He enjoyed the winery one, we found a frog on their property looking for their bonus traditional cache and he was just fine while the wife wine tasted (I sipped here and there). Wine and beer are just some of the commercial places I have seen lab caches, have seen a space store, a marble and tile store, a visitor center, a lavendar store, a carnival, a car wash, a toy store, a library, a farmer's market, a stadium, an outdoor expo, an art museum, a garden, college campuses, a bookstore....why not a winery or brewery? I do not drink alcohol (minus a sip to try) and its not bothered me. Some of these are more fun for a kid but none of them have excluded him.

Yeah, if I was on a trip to Georgia, and if I was, this cache would have been on the list, I would not known have known a cache is disabled the prior day. No way.

I see my next weekend will be taken finding your new caches. Last weekend I did what you did, go to Vancouver Island. Went to Butchart Gardens and the Butterfly Gardens and of course cached around the area to some extent.

There was a time that I deleted my DNFs when I found caches and over time I have realized that was wrong to do. DNFs are an important part of a cache, it gives future finders an idea of how tough a cache can be and it removes some of my history.

Not all Geo-Art is a power trail you realize. For example, in my area, Peace puzzles, WSGA, and Doctor Who, like this one http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC4PHAK_doctor-who-is-50-06-gallifreyan?guid=4326790d-d350-4447-891d-f3e4af40b231 Given all these Doctor Who caches required hiking a mountain and they were not 528 feet apart, definitely were not power trails by any stretch.

Bring back webcam caches or at least at the minimum, allow folks who have virtuals or webcams that exist to do basic maintenance on them, like transferring ownership, re-enabling them, moving the coordinates slightly. Have a special locationless cache day so everyone who wants that icon can get it. Have a committee to look into the plausibility of having challenge caches have their own icon. Take my private jet and swedish bikini interns and go to each state, province and western European country to cache in. There are other cool places but I figure that is a good start.

There are many challenges of # of finds in a day, whether its a specific type of cache like 25 puzzles in a day or 50 non traditionals in a day, or 100 cache finds in a day. I have not seen specifically 25 in a day but I have seen 20 and 25. Here is the nearest one for Washington State for example, 50. http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC1P1PG_50-in-a-day?guid=fb4da257-6774-48e5-a09e-3536998f8d69

Personally would not care, would just make sure the dates are right, do not care about which one I found first that day if I messed it up. I do try to log them in order but if I goof, I goof. I often forget to log a cache and will log it at the end of the day. My cache order does not impact my viewing of my caches, the only exception would be if there was a milestone and I would edit/tweak it to make it work.

What cache are you referring to lam? I thought that all the caches up there are enabled and in place. Its replaced now, was referring to the May 2001 cache. The original replacement notification was done by someone else by the CO so was a little confused but then the CO said they were together and its replaced. Yep, sounds good to go.

One of my caching friends posted it on Facebook. How he found out, I do not know. Same way I learned about that Grisham one a year or so ago.

I ordered mine well before a couple of weeks ago, nada. Course, Monday is a good day for mail, can hope. Seems they got a lot of people's personal information for not a lot of trackables sent out.

Well, either way, might see you on 10/11. Course, have no idea what you look like, but I will just listen for someone grumbling about puzzles.

Oh, there is one http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC5DQGA_mailbox-the-easy-way

Still hoping the oldie cache is replaced (was it today by someone else with permission, I can't tell yet, a little confused) and maybe can find time to go up there. I'd have gone via the old trail but my knees will appreciate the newer one. Don't see any new caches yet but am sure that won't be the case for too long.

Minus money to travel I would like my own personal traveling benchmark, like one of my caching friends has.

www.geocheck.org is different than www.geochecker.com. I would try the first one if you have not. There are other ones out there, certitude, evince (I wince as I type their name). I have seen some people have multiple levels of puzzles in the geochecker itself. We have one here like that. Just one final cache though. http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC338AJ_buta-sudoku?guid=c57cdfd5-44d5-4768-a31a-979abf5b17c4

Well, and I admit, I do not totally understand all your parameters, I think it would be easier to just do one puzzle cache. I think its okay to have 2 sets of coordinates, one may lead you to a multi piece and the other coordinate, the tougher one to solve, would leave you right to the final. You would have to make sure to make it clear at this false cache that this is just a waypoint, not the final or folks will sign that and call it good. I have a set of 2 puzzles, under a different name, that there are 2 coordinates and one is for each puzzle. Both have geocheck. They seem to be pretty well received relatively speaking. So, both could work, just as long as you take some steps to help avoid confusion. If your final is a regular and your WP1 is a micro, that may make it tough unless you are clear that the final is a regular but you may end up at a waypoint micro if you did not solve the puzzle the way to get to the true answer.

To you and I, it is just a pixel. To those who covet them, it is reason to falsely log caches in order to get them. I didn't even mention the sanctioning of power trails to fuel the numbers games. Groundspeak is promotes statistics. I personally do not see a find log as a score. But you haven't been watching if you think others don't and Groundspeak has been complicit with promoting it. What I mean is, yeah, I know some folks will falsely log a cache to get a souvenir or icon, look at how many folks were still logging the 2010 Lost and Found event after the fact. Look at lab caches and how many times I get emailed from Europeans for answers when I find them early. We all have our own ethics. If someone is in my area logging caches falsely, I may report it and certainly would delete finds (and tell friends) if I saw something really out of whack but if a German has 400 lab cache finds or even every souvenir, it does not bother me more than making me more than shake my head. Its silly and folks can tell who are the folks who are just cheating. I know the local ones for example who almost never sign caches. If they want to be known for that, that is their shame. Many of us would like all finds to be accurate but its never going to happen.

That statement worked until his company basically sanctioned the leaderboard mentality. There are prizes (icons, souvenirs, etc.). Anyone remember the discussion about the people falsely logging towards the end of August just to get those coveted souvenirs? Don't see how a souvenir is any more of a "prize" that having a trackable icon, or a find in general, or an icon found. Its just a souvenir on someone's profile. Hardly a cash prize or fame and fortune. Just a pixel.

We have family in the area so going to southern Oregon is not outside our realm, partly why I completed the Oregon Counties Challenge. Besides, I like to roam. I would not have driven down there just for that cache. You posted between me and Roman. I usually quote who I am responding to. My appologies. It was not directed at you, but at the cache in the original post. Okay, thought it was odd, but the cache I posted was D2T1 so I thought you might have.

We have family in the area so going to southern Oregon is not outside our realm, partly why I completed the Oregon Counties Challenge. Besides, I like to roam. I would not have driven down there just for that cache.