slukster

First off, I am DAD to my 6 yr old son and 3 yr old daughter. <vomit> I guess then nobody's cut out to be a CO. There's a cacher who does almost exclusively copy and paste logs. <vomits again> Nobody cares how many caches you found that day or what you had for lunch. Really, we don't want to know! It's not just cache owners that are annoyed by cut and paste logs, but all the other cachers that get to read about your glorious day...again....and again...on every cache page in the area.... I absolutely agree. If you are going to find 30, 40, 50 caches in a day, in a cache dense area, pasting the same six paragraph log on each and every cache is stupid. How many times do I need to read that you had the burger and she had the fish in your after caching meal, especially if I'm in the field, cant find the cache and am looking at the logs for possible clues? Personally, I think that if you don't have or are not willing to write something unique for the cache, then simply say "Thanks" and be done with it. The four page adventure followed by the one sentence about the cache is the worse. If you are going to do that, put the unique part at the top. After we have read two or more logs, it's the only part that is relevant. What I usually do if I found a bunch of caches is put the long story in one of the online logs and then more cache specific info only on the rest. Often there are only 1 or 2 CO's in a given park area so I will put the long story in one cache for each cache owner. This way each CO gets to read the full story of my caching experience. And most times I don't copy and past the long story so it varies a bit between logs.

Grace, I do this with my 6 yr old son's account. I like to write long logs and I write the logs for my son. I usually write our logs to tell a story as if we were both together telling the story to someone. I write his logs from a kids perspective and try to take his mood or something he said during the trip and use it to form a log. So if I wrote in my log "The path to GZ was really muddy so I had to pick up my son to get him to the cache without him getting stuck in the mud" I might then write for him "Dad carried me to the cache. I really wanted to walk through the mud. It would have been more fun. Dad said he didn't want me to get muddy. Party pooper daddy" I haven't involved him with writing the logs yet but occassionally read what I wrote for him. He usually gets a kick out of it. I always enjoy going back and reading the logs on the caches we found together. Since the logs are usually pretty descriptive I am able to remember the experience and have a good laugh all over again. When he gets old enough to log his own caches I hope he enjoys looking back at "his" logs. I have a handful of what I consider really good caches and always look forward to people finding them in hopes of a good log. I am definately dissappointed when I get the "TFTC" or completely blank log. I often have a hard time finding something to say about lame caches but I never leave TFTC logs.

I set up my son's own account last year when he turned 5 but I do all of the logging for him (obviously ). I know one day he will be logging his own so I figured it was best to start keeping track of them now instead of having to go back through years of my logs to figure which caches he was with me for. Since I write very descriptive logs, including listing all who accompanied me, it was easy to go back and find the caches that he was with me for so I could log them for him. I write all of his logs from a kids perspective and usually relate his log to my log as if we were telling a story together. Here is "his" log for his first cache: This was my first geocache. My dad says I was really excited but I was only 2 so I don't remember it but I do love geocaching now. I see my dad took a picture of me with my bunny ears I made at school for Easter. How embarrassing. And here was my log: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=a1ae5581-18e3-40d4-b796-8c285834da13 Now my 3 yr old daughter doesn't have an account yet but has found a bunch with us so it might be time soon to sign her up!

Funny that I come across this topic seeing that I just deleted a duplicate log a few minutes ago. I usually pick up on the duplicate logs when I check my email notifications and see the two emails from the same cacher on the same cache. Many times the cacher has already deleted the duplicate log by the time I check the cache page. Sometimes people have logged their TB's with a second found it log instead of a note. I ALWAYS follow up after deleting a log to inform the cacher as to why I deleted their log. In the case of the TB logs I usually email them first to inform them that they can change it to a note. I have never had any negative feedback from any cacher and most respond with a thanks. I believe it is smart phone logging that is causing an increase in duplicate logs (I seem to come across them more frequently now since the GC app was released). I also have found that most are from newbie's.

I have a cache that is in a small rock formation that you have to hop across a small stream which runs along a fence in order to get to it. There is a trail along the fence but you wouldn't see the cache as you walked by. A new friend of mine had gotten me into rock climbing and I had casually mentioned geocaching to him. About a month later he said that he thinks he found one of those "thingys" I had told him about. When he descibed the park and the location I realized he found my cache! He was looking for areas to go bouldering at and it seems my secret hiding spot wasn't as secret as I thought.

I agree with you. I have't done a power trail but a couple of nice size trails with caches every .1 - .2 miles apart. The first one I stopped at everyone and the clipping in and out and stopping so quickly made it a little less enjoyable. I like to ride at a good pace so stopping and going wasn't my thing. I probably would have been better off hiking it. But the second trail I did I found every other cache and found the others on the way back so that I rode for a bit longer between stops.

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I used to use a online HTML editor for my cache pages and they looked great on the computer but a few cachers emailed to let me know that their paperless units came up blank or with unreadable HTML when viewed. At first I thought tough luck, I like to make pretty cache pages (and I didn't have a paperless unit so I couldn't feel their pain), but working with one of the cachers I realized what part of the HTML was causing the problem (the HTML editor was designed for ebay listings and always used unecessary "Table" tags which was causing the problem). I removed them and still had my pretty cache pages and kept my local cachers happy. And now that I have an Oregon I can understand where they were coming from. Here are a couple of mine. Nothing too crazy. I like to use different colors and font sizes and almost always include a pic that is relevent to the hide. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=a4571015-3ec6-4a54-a68e-4377d7c8e1a0 This one was meant to be annoying thus the tough to read font. I didn't purposely made the description using .jpeg files in order to piss people off. It was the only way I could get the effect I was going for. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=8ef0e0e9-11b6-4466-a925-2258272f8a8f I am sure not everyone appreciates this but I often like to tell a story in my description (and I appreciate reading other's stories as well). Since I usually read the cache pages of the caches I plan to seek before heading out(and I am not a huge numbers run cacher) I don't get frustrated with having to read through a long description to get to the nitty gritty. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=8717e092-e6fd-4545-b58c-591f2efa68b0

I would never send a thank you to someone just for favoriting my cache but I have sent a note to cachers who have shared a humorous or interesting story or picture in their log, whether it was on my cache or another cache.

I have been caching with my 2 1/5 yr old daughter and 5 yr old son and they both enjoy it tremendously. I like to take them out hiking in the local parks/ reservations which have wide open access road trails so that there is lots of room for them to run around without worrying too much about them falling down on a single track trail. When it is just the three of us I usually bring along a jogging stroller and towards the end of the hike they usually trade off riding in the stroller and either walking or being carried by me. I prefer to be back to the car before I have to start carrying them but I push the limits some times. We have also been going out with a family that we are all friends with so the kids get along great and I get to hang out with one of my buddies. The kids usually can last longer when there are other kids with us and they have fun competing to find the cache. Getting the kids out in the great outdoors at an early age is important to me so hopefully they will learn to appreciate being outdoors and enjoy it as much as I do.

I have been bringing my son geocaching since he was 2 (he was in a stroller and had no clue what was going on but when I opened up the cache he was very excited about the toys). Now that he is 5 I have been taking him and his little 2.5 yr old sister with me and they both can't get enough of geocaching. I have been surprised that they haven't ever gotten really dissappointed when we found a micro cache with nothing in it. It is all part of my plan to get the kids out hiking in the local parks. Start them off young and hopefully they will continue their love of the outdoors. I have also been bringing along some friends of theirs (and their dad who is my friend) which sometimes turns into a competition for who is going to find the cache first. It has been a great experience so far. Most of the caches I have brought them to are ones I have found already so I know there will be no dissappointment in not finding them. My son has 67 finds so far and his first hide is right near his school so we check on it regularly. My wife hasn't signed on and has no interest in geocaching (although she is very happy the kids are enjoying themselves and she will go if I asked her to) so it ends up being the kids and my special time together and "mommy" time for her when we are out. So suggestions for your situation? Can you talk them into going for a walk in the park without mentioning geocaching? If so, bring them down a trail that will lead past a geocache and then take a detour when you get there. Suggestions to scope out geocaches before hand and then bring them to the larger ones with goodies in them is the best advice. Forget about the rest of the family. Make it special time with your daughter and like others have said, she will go where you will take her, like it or not.

I have this same problem on my laptop. It seems that I have to put my cursor just right over the icon and have the name of the cache show up before I can click on it. Very annoying. I have this issue with my desktop at work as well. Anybody else besides the two of us?

Two weeks ago I submitted two caches to be reviewed on the same day. One under my account, the other as a first hide for my 5 yr old son. His cache is a 1/ 1.5 that is on a median across the street from his school. The cache is far enough away from the school and there are trees that partially camouflage seekers, so nobody looking out of the school should be suspicious. I posted a reviewer note prior to submission saying this and it got published without question. My cache, a 2.5/ 3 which is 16ft up in a tree in a public park, received a reviewers note asking me to describe in detail the type of container and how it was hidden. This was the first time I had ever been questioned on a cache after 98 hides. The cache page and hint clearly say that it is up in a tree so I suspect he was looking for how it was attached to the tree. I more than happily answered his questions and the cache was published. Take a look at both caches and maybe you can see what triggered the reviewer note on one and not the other. +1 After having received the reviewers note this is exactly what I was thinking. The same way I posted a note on my son's cache about the proximity to the school (knowing it might be seen as an issue), I will make it my goal to provide as much info as possible to the reviewer so that they don't have to question my cache.

I have this cache which the security guards are well aware of and seem to have fun helping cachers out finding it: Anthony

I used to release my caches one at a time, even if I had several lined up to be published. There are a group of about 8 FTF hounds in my area and I liked to give everyone a fair shot at the FTF on each cache. Often, if the caches were all in the same park, I would put a note on the cache page saying that I would be releasing others shortly and if you weren't coming for the FTF then you should wait a couple of days for all of them to be released. After having cached for a while and realized what a pain it can be to have to come back to the same area over and over again, I began releasing them at the same time. I would release a cache series at the same time if they were all placed or put in the description that there were going to be x number of caches placed so cachers can decide whether to come out or wait.

For the record, I never mentioned the cache or the cacher in my initial post (not that it was hard to track down with a little detective work). I did admit that it probably wasn't my nicest email. Since I sent it through GC.com I do not have a record of the email. I actually wanted to go back and check exactly what I wrote to place in this thread but I soon realized I had no way to recover it. PLEASE post my email here for all to see. I see someone beat me to it by notifying newsboy559 about this thread. I had all intentions of notifying them of this thread to illustrate why what they had done was a bad idea.

I also noticed that he had hung on to this TB for 9 months and logged it at every cache he visited. The goal of the TB is to put on the most miles in a year which he clearly helped but I would think the TB owner would have liked to see it travel the world with many cachers rather than in the hands of one guy (to his credit, he did travel to Belize within 2 weeks of grabbing it, which added thousands of miles to the TB but then it stayed in Kansas the rest of the time). I have heard of people hanging on to a personal TB and logging them at each cache they visit to keep track of their travel's but never someone else's TB (unless they have permission from the owner, who lives in TX). And we all know that it is not uncommon for people to hang onto TB's for months before finally placing them, often after a nudge from the TB owner. Does anyone else see this as unusual behavior?

Here is a recent log on one of my caches: Besides the fact that the TB's and my cache will surely disappear the next time the gardener comes around, the cache has not been replaced where I hid it! It is a magentic micro hidden on the bottom of a metal railing around a planter. The cacher is from out of state and has over 100 finds. I guess they do things differently in his state. I tried to be nice when I emailed him telling him that a TB should never be left outside of a micro container, especially in an urban environment, but I can't promise it was my nicest email. Luckily the next cacher found everything and made things right: I then checked my other micro caches in the area to see if he left TB's anywhere else and found this log: NO!! Don't do it. The cacher responded to my email: And then after he read the log from the cacher who found the cache after him, he posted this note to the cache page: The thing is that this isn't the first time this has happened on one of my micro caches. About a month ago I received this log on another of my micro caches in NYC: There is no way this coin could have fit in my bison tube! I had to mark it missing and then the TB owner said that the coin was in the hands of the security guard on the property (he emailed the cacher who left it to find this out. Security is very aware of the cache although I could not find one who knew about the geocoin). I guess I get frustrated because the poor people who own these TB's are losing their TB's and I can only imagine these cachers are doing this everywhere they go. Anybody else seeing this on their micro caches?

Too many times when I check on one of my urban caches, I can't find the stinking thing. I can't find it one day, four people find it the next day. I try again with no luck, another 4 people find it. Very frustrating. I rarely find them in the exact spot I hid them. On one cache, I had replaced it since there were 3 or 4 DNF's and then a week later I get a log stating they found 2 caches at GZ.

Can't say I have had any unusual cache mugglings recently. I have a couple of caches that seem to go missing every couple of months or so.

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