Uncle Alaska

If you do find some free time, note that the road is dirt, but not 4x4. As long as it is not raining hard, easy drive to the cache (could do it in a prius, no problem). Have a good time.

Have you done this one? Azucar Mine Offset GCC2 Nice year 2000 cache

I used Ruberstamps.net. Go to the bottom of my profile on gc.com to see a link to the stamps I use. I kept it simple and small. I can fit mine on nearly every log, only ones I can't are usually the tiny micro magnet ones.

Because I prefer it over other devices...

I bought my first GPS in 1997. Even though SA was enabled, I was still using the receiver while at work to find locations (I work in Forestry, finding remote spots to measure the forest, kind of like a census). Even though SA was on, I was still able to navigate fairly well in the remote areas of Alaska and other western states. I discovered Geocaching (and began supporting it) back before it was a site. There was a group of users that would post on the geocities site and discuss those early GPS units. That was where I conversed with Jeremy and others while they were fleshing out the future of the geocaching web site. I have never heard of any other similar game prior to this.

Yep, he/she should have used the OM when they replaced the cache after the previous NM.

If it's GC635P1, it appears you are neglecting it. I wish our local reviewer did such a great service to our community. I wouldn't call two dnf's neglect. And the CO has a record of replacing when it has gone missing.

OK. I read your example as suggesting that quality containers did not imply good maintenance, but I find they correlate pretty well. Would you consider an ammo can a quality container? I have found many of them abandoned and/or empty and a mess. Certainly, I have found many more flimsy/cheap containers in a state of decay. But still truly surprising at the number of good containers (solid, watertight, well hidden) that are in poor shape on the inside. I still think correlation follows the individual CO and/or their willingness to act responsibly, and not whether they paid more for a container.

I think Cacher B will put out better caches, probably even spend more money on them, despite his financial position. Regardless of his disposable income, I predict Cacher A is still going to throw out whatever's convenient, and then he won't have an opportunity to learn from experience what does and doesn't work. So while I agree Cacher B will maintain his cache more consistently, I claim his cache will need less maintenance to begin with, too. Maybe....my main point is, I can list Cacher A-Z and each can have a slightly different series of factors that will play into whether they will or won't regularly place and maintain quality caches. A few sentances added/ammended/or removed from the guidelines aren't going to change this (IMO). As Fizzy rightly stated (paraphrased): "the belief that tweaks to the guidelines will somehow magically change human nature seems misguided"

Thinking about your food example: Cacher A: is a workaholic with 2 kids, a spouse, and a dog. Cacher A has a disposable income and found out about geocaching by accident in the app store. Cacher A dives in and money is no object, quality containers are bought and placed, but time for the new hobby is limited. Cacher B: a single retired person with a limited, fixed income. Cacher B found out about geocaching through a friend and has been slowly building a pack with all the TOTT to find any cache. Money is tight, but Cacher B wants to get out and do things with his/her time. Which of these two is more likely to consistently maintain their cache (regardless of quality)? I think this "problem" or "issue" is very complex and has many angles. Not sure if there is ever going to be a magic solution. I appreciate the discussion, just think that every solution brought up in these forums will usually be shot down by another "what if" situation.

A log on one of my older caches: "Found it 03/20/2016 Pleasant walk up the sandy path ... rock climbing optional, not required. Great views. Would be a favorite, but after a 50' search by 4 eyes, we did not find it. From the looks of previous logs & the fact that we are king & queen of the DNF, it's probably still there ... somewhere. However, in case it's been nabbed by one of the GD ammo can bandits, we placed a temporary 4" black tube replacement container & log in a crack in a rock at GZ beneath a couple rocks. We've added this cache to our watch list. If anyone finds the original, we'll change our "find" to "DNF". & if you find both the original & our replacement, please discard the replacement ... or leave it with a note inside that it's a decoy!"

I started in 2002 and it was around 75 percent ammo can finds for my first couple of years playing. Micros were just starting to show up and were kind of a novelty. The majority of my finds were interesting places and I still remember most of them. If the containers were not ammo cans, they were something big enough to hold a large log book and swag to trade. No overstating for my playground. Guess it depends on whether you started playing in a rural or urban (LA/Orange County) area...but believe me, there were lots of non ammo can and smaller caches back then. Very rural where I live which would account for a higher rate of larger containers but still memorable caches compared to most caches around here today. You are not very far from one of my ammo can caches...Wilson Canyon Cache near Smith Valley/Yerington, has been there waiting for you for 13+ years

I started in 2002 and it was around 75 percent ammo can finds for my first couple of years playing. Micros were just starting to show up and were kind of a novelty. The majority of my finds were interesting places and I still remember most of them. If the containers were not ammo cans, they were something big enough to hold a large log book and swag to trade. No overstating for my playground. Guess it depends on whether you started playing in a rural or urban (LA/Orange County) area...but believe me, there were lots of non ammo can and smaller caches back then.

When you say "normal caches", so you mean anything other than "caches I like"? When I say normal, I do not mean caches I like ... You say this, but then you proceed with several paragraphs that I can only interpret as caches you like being "normal": the value was in the journey, classic containers, nothing fancy, easy to find, relaxing, and on and on, any one of which someone else could as easily value the opposite of you, thus concluding that caches are getting better and better rather than worse and worse. When I hear normal cache, the first thing that comes to my mind is a hike to an interesting location with an ammo can and large log book. That's how it was for the first few years of geocaching and that's the type of caching I enjoy. For someone who joined geocaching recently, normal might be a power trail cache or perhaps even a throw down. I'll always think of a hike and ammo can as normal as that is how geocaching started and was branded for many years. Maybe for you it was that way. My first cache in 2001 was in a park and was a small tupperware container (and not a long hike by any means). Certainly, there were ammo cans, large log books, and long hikes back then...but lets not overstate how many fit your exact wording. Of all the 2000-2001 caches I have found, very few were ammo cans (less than half).

I will look for ANY cache ANYWHERE...

As a former debater myself Ahhhh!! That explains a LOT, for me, at least. Despite the term "forum", this is NOT a formal debate. Nor is it even an informal debate. People have opinions and should be able to express them here without others telling them they are wrong. Formal debaters such as yourself seldom understand emotions and certainly hate to validate them, yet they are very real. You would do well to try to get in touch with your feelings one of these days. Seems your logical muscles are very well developed at the expense of your emotional ones. Then maybe a list that is presented as fact should begin with "in my opinion" or "I feel that these are the reasons..." I don't see any supression, just people giving their "opinion" and trying to refute a list presented as if it was absolute fact (rather than presented as an opinion).

I see a lot of traditionals that are mis-rated as well...wish there was a method for reviewers to vett all ratings.

A dedicated GPS receiver that will operate for several weeks on a single battery charge.

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Try this website: Toolkit I use Jeffrey's EXIF viewer quite a bit.

Jammed under a rock so solidly that at least 10 finders failed to remove it. Good I am, Superman I am not So, irretrievably jammed...must have missed that in the original post I assume that the hider has no plans to remove the container? If not, remove in any way possible?

Why does it have to be smashed? Remove it from the location and recycle it properly?

A.) What harm does this thread do if you happen to be right that it misses its target audience? B.) How would you propose this goal be accomplished? A.) None, though why not put it in B (see below) B.) Getting Started? Where one might go if they are new to GC? Though I doubt all those "wicked intro-app" users will ever spend more than a second in any of these forums (if at all). This might be better suited for the facebook site, though you would need to be a lackey for writing access there.

I think very few, if any, of your "muggles with apps" are going to find their way to this particular thread. You know, they are just biding their time between angry birds and candy crush...not registering their email, just moving on in a few days to that barcode game...this is not really a place to target that audience.

It depends on the waymark, of course. For example, The statue of liberty waymark is much more likely to get many visits, versus a relatively non-descript statue in front of a high school in a small mid-west town. Of the waymarks I have initially published, probably the one I get the most visit logs on is Delicate Arch (Arches NP) in Utah. It is a popular hiking/visit destination in that park. I think the many more mundane waymarks out there kind of show where virtuals were heading towards, before the halt.