Coyote 8a

Well, for me the subject is closed. Having done Urban (built up) area caches for a bit now, I've come to appreciate, and participate in them. Most of the caching I do is in the dark, you can disappear so quickly. Some caches still must be done during the day. I've learned alot from cachers that are heavy in this area, my favorite; moses flf. I enjoy the hunt, even if I can't find them. I also enjoy locating places that I think could be tricky/evil cache sites. Sometimes they are. The Coyote is going to be searching, and stashing geocaches in an Urban enviroment for a long time to come.

Well, go figure. As much as I hate these types of caches, I just keep going back out. Learning to be pretty sneaky. For those of you that think Brandon's population is no challenge. We have no couch potatoes! Everyone and his/her dog are out at all hours.

Well, I guess I know where most of you stand. Have fun with that. Gas don't mean nothing to me, but spending a couple of hours in the police station does. I guess it's what ever turns your crank. Myself, give me one or two hide options. It just makes sense. Why draw attention to yourself if you don't have to. Of coarse there is always the option of mag light searchs. Imagine that, you hid a cache, and someone got shot, because the GPS, Map 60Cx, looked like a gun. Yeah, I want that on me.

I can understand the need to ensure a cache, usually a micro, has to be concealed from muggles, however, no GPS is ever right on. When caching in built up areas, as the hider it is pretty easy to select a site, and from time to time check on it; after all you hid it, you don't need the GPS to refind it. Now for the rest of us, the seekers, we have to try and be discreet. Doesn't work so well. Personally, I will no longer search for micro caches in built up areas. I'm tired of looking strange and out of place as I try to be discreet. For those of you who hide them; think about the seekers. Camoflage, yes, but hiding in areas with multiple stash spots; it just pisses me off.

Thankyou for the info.

So there I was, rain pissing down, totally soaked. I was on my second Geocache that day, failed to find the first. I had strapped my old Silva Ranger Compass into my right breast pocket. My friend, Mary had commented on that earlier, she didn't see why I was carring it when I had the GPS. I knew the best way to reach the cache was to follow the hiking trail, but I'd decided to take the truck up a road to the north then shoot a bearing in. Logged in the coords into the truck GPS, drove then parked. Punched in my waypoint, failed to mark the truck's position, sighted my compass and when into the woods. I was using a Legend, not equipped with high sensitive receiver, so with the tree cover and clouds you lost your signal. Hell, I must of picked the most difficult route to go in on. Hills, deadfall, brutal. After a while the terrain became too dangerous, I was going to have to turn back but I had no real idea where I was. Consulted the GPS, without the truck's location, and it wasn't looking good. I had changed the bearing on the compass as I attempted to get on target to the cache, but I knew what my start bearing had been. I've been navigating with a map and compass for over thirty years. That day I didn't have the map. With the GPS causing me concern, I turned to the one thing I have always trusted, the compass. Shot a back bearing and missed the truck by 25'. Now Mary knows why I still pack the old Ranger. I have since replaced the Legend, but now I make sure I always travel with a map and my old Silva Ranger compass.

Cache hides are given in lat and long. When setting up the GPS compass should I be listing True north or magnetic?