Art Carnage

That's far from being a new idea. It was tried about a dozen years ago. Didn't really work out.

When geocaching started, there was no easy method of making an on-site on-line log. Also, there wasn't the proliferation of micros, so log books were bigger and you had more room to write about the experience. As log books got smaller, they became a place to prove you were there with a signature, and the longer logs were posted on-line.

Ah, yes. The "take it to the forums" form letter. It's a classic!

Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. You said it's a duck. Sorry, but it looks buried to me. Your use of the word "depression" for what is clearly a hole over 2 feet deep (by your own admission) says to me you're trying to spin things.

Your first problem required a relocation of the cache. That pretty much makes all the other issues moot, since a new cache location usually will require a new or modified cache description. It would be pointless to bring up issues that may not exist once the cache is relocated.

No, it's a single, hyphenated word: dead-end. The real problem is the grammar. It should be "An Electronic Dead-end".

I've read this 10 times, and still can't figure out who you're congratulating. Since no one else has done anything, I can only guess that you're congratulating... yourself?

To save you future aggravation, know that you can't really create a route on your PC for your GPS. All you're doing is sending the starting and ending points to your unit, and the unit will calculate the route. That route may, or may not match what you saw on your PC. The best you can do is to set a few waypoints along the way, in order to force a route to go a particular direction.

And, of course, you're absolutely certain he didn't decide to list them elsewhere, right?

In pretty short order, somebody would email the approver, complaining that the cache was mis-categorized. At that point, as they say, "the jig is up". If you're lucky, the approver would just archive and lock the cache. And put a note in your permanent folder.

Read each of the DNFs. They don't all pertain to the same waypoint or for the same reason. Shunra also made the effort and went out to check on the cachein October in lieu of the owner's absence... ...and again in November to confirm the cache and all waypoints are as they should be... in place and in good condition. I know of a few caches that are OK to remain this way when someone else checks on it. Why this one was archived as an exception without a request to retrieve it, only the reviewer can answer to. Shunra doesn't own the cache. Where were the owner's posts? Nowhere. The conclusion that the owner had abandoned the cache is a completely rational one.

Let's see, a string of 5 DNFs over a 2 month span - not a peep from the owner. A disabling and 1-month warning from an approver, and again not a peep from the owner, who could have enabled the cache at any time, but instead did nothing. Can't really blame the approver for assuming its an abandoned cache.

A friend emailed a note to me yesterday about this cache. Ever hear of a throw-down gun? It's an unregistered gun that an unscrupulous cop would carry. If you should accidently shoot and kill an unarmed person, you drop the throw-down gun at the scene, and you've got yourself off the hook. Here's the geocaching version. Look for cache that no one's found in a while. If the last few logs are DNFs, all the better. Show up at the site, look around for a few minutes, then declare "Oh, heavens! The cache is missing!" Then whip out your throw-down cache, hide it somewhere nearby, then log it as a find! Why, oh why, didn't our team think of this years ago? We, too, could have a Find total in quadruple digits by now.

hehehe. . . I can't believe how many people have fallen for this. I'll be expecting the first issue sometime around, oh, April 1st.

I'm just glad to know that I'm not the only one doing that.

I agree. If you made an effort to look for it, it should be counted as a did-not-find.

Ive found out on the garmin web page that the Geko is waterproof, up to a point. But it doesn't say anything about whether or not it will float. If not, does anybody have an idea? There doesn't seem to be any place to attache any kind of floating device. Or maybe Im totaly missing something...?