RingXero

People seem to think that if the police aren't busting down your door then it's a 'grey area', well it's not. Personal views of what's right and wrong aside, we have the law. While judges are in place to adjudicate the law and by being human also try and follow the spirit as well. Just because you don't want to be called a thief doesnt mean you operate under a 'grey area'. 'Librarying' is not covered under Fair Use. Time-Shifitng is now allowed, but you are supposed to delete the content after completely viewing the material. 'Librarying' is illegal, the reason why there is not alot of precedent set is that in the recent past there has been no reason to pursue it, although when the VCR was first introduced it was, again when tape recorders where introduced, both dropped with no real resolution as the tapes degrade and comercials almost always are still present. (a premium copy 'tax' was created for blank audio tapes and may still be in effect I think) Once a large enough group get PVR type devices and start copying perfect digital and/or HDTV quality shows, burned to DVD(or kept on a 'server') without any comercials as they are automatically removed, then we will see some action on this front, as income sources will be hurt. Already there have been lawsuits about the features that make it easy to remove the commercials. Movie caches have been created, music ones as well, they work well, but don't use copies of the media, and don't use the originals provided to make yourself a copy then trade the original back. If you do keep a copy for goodness sake don't tell anyone about it, don't post about it, make as if you are doing exactly what you are doing(stealing). Keep Geocaching far away from the hamfisted hammer of copyright law, with a few well placed and worded legal actions from the RIAA/MPAA both this website and the 'other' one could be closed pending a resolution which could take anywhere from a couple of weeks to years. Now sorry to be long winded, but this is a personal pet peeve of mine, and I have tried to keep things as brief as possible. Personally I think the content providers are raking the content creators over hot coals, they charge too high a premium on what they(the providers) do, and in most cases just leach off of the creators' works. I also think the DMCA should be revoked in full, that laws should be made and reiterated that end user license agreements cannot supercede state and federal law. I could go on forever, but this isn't the forum. RX

There are no grey areas. It's simple really, 'Fair Use' allows a person to make one backup copy of a purchased item like a music CD. This does not have to be to the same format, so backing up to a tape or MP3 is ok. You can give or sell the backup or original to someone else provided that you destroy any other copy including the original that you have. Now, it is also illegal to own a piece of music that you have not payed for, or recieved in an illegal fashion(gifts are fine, but if the person giving you the item keeps a copy or the original you are breaking the law too). The only reason the RIAA has gone after the people who share (allow downloading) is that those people are an easier target, they can list multiple infractions easily, multiplying the offense and money owed, and it's also easier and cheaper to focus on one area of the law to try and build precedent. If they make people not want to share, then they limit the amount of files traded, going after the 'supply' side see? Now for geocaching purposes, it would be hard to tell if the CDR in the cache is the only copy that the person placing it had, and the RIAA would see it as an 'illegal copy', so to prevent very bad publicity, and more importantly a handful of lawsuits that would be very expensive to defend against, it's best not to leave any form of copyrighted material in a cache unless it's the original item. (while the RIAA would not know if the placer kept a copy of it, they would assume not in this case) RX P.S. -The only real 'Grey Area' in Fair use is when it collides with certain laws like the DMCA which makes bypassing encryption/copy protection illegal, so while you are allowed to make a backup copy of your DVD movie, the easiest way to do so is to break the encryption but in so doing you would be breaking the law.(under the DMCA)

Abit belated, but thanks for the theme. RX

This thread should really be renamed to something like 'Avatar/Sig posting test thread'. would cut down on the test threads that still spring up.

Hey there, I got my cables from pc-mobile.net I don't notice a cable that they say is made for the Rino, and looking on Garmins website it seems as if it is a different cable than the one for etrex and gpsv. I would call garmin and see if the cable for pc interface is the same as one for either unit, if so that you can use that cable, otherwise you will need a null modem adapter or null modem cable to connect the two, abit bulkier, but it would work. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

You can also use Durarite paper and notebooks. Completely waterproof, even under water. Made by the company which makes "Rite in the Rain" paper. They also sell 'All Weather Pens' at that site, as well as Waterproof Labels. While it does say for the labels only for Laser print, it should work for inkjets that use waterproof ink like epsons' "Durabright" series. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

you can pick up a bluetooth rs232 port adapter, here are a few places. Inventel BlueAirPlug and SMART Modular Technologies and Lintech go to products, bluetooth, they have singular and 'cable replacement' kits with everything you need in one set. and here is a bunch more: blueunplugged.com and at the same site, in their coming soon section, rs232 adapter -- a Class 3 device (10m range) should be more than enough for your purposes. Class 1 has a range of 100m. -- power will be an issue, the nice thin adapaters all need external power sources, you may ve able to power them with a AA batt pack like these, but check the power req before trying of course. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being. [This message was edited by RingXero on October 12, 2003 at 09:05 AM.]

It's interesting how many people didn't get that this is a joke, all it takes is a quick look at the url. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

quote:Originally posted by martmann:It's easier than saying 'it was very close to a collision, but missed'. After all, things miss each other by a long distance all the time, but when they miss while very near to each other, it increases the pucker factor. Actually, 'nearly hit' or a 'near hit' would have been vastly more accurate in describing the scenario. 'Near miss' was coined by accident by a journalist with not enough sense. You will notice though that the usage is reduced greatly and the terms 'near collision', 'almost collided' or the like has taken it's place. 'Trading Up' as a short for 'Trading up the value of the cache' works well enough for me not to sigh everytime I hear/read it. Will I personally use the phrase? don't know, don't really care that much about it. I was more interested in how the phrase came about. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

somewhat odd legal disclaimers like these are in almost all instances brought about by someone bringing a case against one of the companies in a like profession. -possible cases could be 'person sues mapmaker for not showing a riverbed as 'dry', or the reverse, it just rained and the 'dry riverbed' is now a rampaging river. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

"You would be trading up the value of the cache" thanks for the context, as I have been going abit insane reading 'I traded up', or 'people should trade up or not at all'. and trying to see why anyone would think this was good behaviour. of course, I shake my head everytime I hear 'near-miss' as well. RX

Forgive my newbyness please But I keep reading posts about how good it is to 'Trade up', when what they mean is the cacher leaving an equal or higher quality item than the one that was taken, which would be 'Trading down'. How did this get switched? or when someone is saying 'I traded up' they are speaking for the cache object? confused. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

and if you want to ruggedize your pda, pick up one of these things. www.otterbox.com

Somewhat off topic, so my apologies, Just wanted to know if any of you folks have used JetBlue airline. see summary of news articles and links here arstechnica.com

quote:Originally posted by enfanta:Great. Now I know how I'm going to be spending *my* summer: picking up every can of Coke in the store and flipping it to see if there's liquid inside!! (b. katt, 7/14/03) Save your time , with the original 'Magic Can' they developed a can that would weigh the exact same, shake the same, etc... The problem with that promotion, was that the mechanical device that ejected the cash malfunctioned so people cut up the cans, and thought they could drink the liquid. That said, they will probably use something different just for liability reasons, but you can be garaunteed that you won't be able to tell the difference. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

Hey Growley, What 'features' would that be? RX

BrianSnat, thanks, will post a new thread over there. quote:Originally posted by enfanta:Don't forget this... Already got one Also have a bike mounted otterbox for the PDA as well. That, and the bike comp, and the Jetlight headlights, and I have a fairly geeked up bike. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.

Test and again one more time and one last time he says [This message was edited by RingXero on September 30, 2003 at 08:24 AM.]

ChiefPig, That is the real issue I have I think, brand new bike, not cheap. So I am trying to see how often I would have to leave the bike 'locked up' on the side of a trail. Now, I do have a car, and would use it for longer outings to carry my bike (and the wife's) but under 20-30 miles in a day I am comfortable with making it a bike trip. anyway, thanks for the info. RX Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being. [This message was edited by RingXero on September 29, 2003 at 10:07 PM.]

Alrighty, I'm new to this whole thing, haven't even looked for a cache yet, but I do have some questions. Primarily, as the topic name suggests, how viable is hunting while perched on a Mountain bike? I am in the central/northern NJ area, as that will have an effect on the answer. Granted using a bike as my primary means of transportation will only be of limited value in the near term in any case, as there are only be so many caches within range. Will using a bike just get me closer to the spot before having to result to hiking, thereby requiring me to get a rather large lock for said bike? thanks for any help that you can give, RX