As one who frequents the wildlife management and wilderness areas of the Adirondacks and nearby areas, and one who has also found a few geocaches, and a NY resident and tax payer, I frankly am glad the DEC has the regulations against leaving personal property on state land. As far as the argument that hunters use the land, and don't need insurance, well, they are under many rules and regulations, have to have a license, and are also not supposed to leave personal property on the land. I think the permit that the DEC has proposed probably has been designed for other purposes, and is being offered as a solution for those of you eager to leave geocaches in these areas. I never put out a cache in these areas because I knew it wasn't permitted, and I didn't want to bother getting permission. But I do know of several "illegal" caches. I hope they will be removed. In any event, as far as the Adirondack park and the wilderness areas, they are protected and supposed to be "forever wild". The DEC has removed leantos, ranger stations, and other non-conforming structures, so if you think that geocaching is being mistreated, I don't believe it is. I'm for leaving the wilderness areas as is, without physical geocaches. There are plenty of opportunities for virtual caches. Isn't it more about the hunt, and less about some dollar store trinkets?