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I need to find a New York Cacher to team with for this cache: GCN2H4--Meet Someone New. The first part of the cache, which I have found, is here in Los Angeles. I now have the coordinates for the next stage which is in Midtown Manhattan. I believe THAT cache will have the coordinates for the final stage which is back here. If you find the New York portion, you get to claim the cache too. Cool idea for a cache. Hope someone can help? Javaa

I loved Buxley's as a way to quickly find caches along a route or in an area where you didn't know the zipcode. The instant link was awesome too. No need to click "identify" and no need to constantly refresh the page. (That is particularly annoying for those of us still on dial-up .) However, from a business standpoint it makes sense for Groundspeak not to want Buxley's around. In addition to the easy link, Buxley maps can be panned and zoomed. If this is available for free it takes away some of the incentive to buy a premium membership at GC.com. Can't really blame Groundspeak for that. I stumbled on an interesting link concerning copyrighted geocache data and the past history between Groundspeak and Buxley. It was posted on another forum back in 2001 and includes an series of emails between Ed and Jeremy. It might put the current matter in a little perspective. http://slashdot.org/yro/01/06/05/2222249.shtml

Hope this is just temporary. Buxley's maps are easier to use when you want to check out new areas and I tend to cache more when they are working.

Thanks SeventhSon. I can be pretty blind sometimes!

Can someone tell me how you go about temporarily disabling a cache I own? I see the archive button, but I just want to disable it, not archive it. Thanks!

I've done quite a few without a GPS. I usually just use the topozone link on the cache page to plot the location on a larger topo. After that, I use basic map skills, and of course the hint. It generally takes me longer to find the cache this way, but not always. With certain caches it might make it easier because you can see where the obstacles are beforehand. Anyway, its a lot of fun and great map reading practice.

Buxley STILL maps all the GC.Com caches posted before August of 2004 and you can use it to get an outline of the caches in a given area. After doing the research and printing any pages you need, pick one of these caches and click the "nearest caches" button on its page. That way you won't miss any "new" (post August 2004) hides. An extra step, but still easier than using GC Maps in my opinion.

I have a Garmin 38 too. The Smithsonian Museum of Natural History has been after it for their collection, but so far I've resisted and managed to find almost 450 caches with it. Last week I left it on the roof of my car, a fact I only became aware of after reaching 60 mph. I heard a loud thump and watched in my rearview mirror as it bounced along behind me. When I went back to retrieve the carcass I was amazed to discover it still worked, despite no longer having a front plastic screen cover. It's guided me to several more caches since. They made them tough back in the old days....

I've read this whole thread and I didn't really see an answer. This last question, like the one in the 2 previous posts, is very valid. I think the ball is in Groundspeak's court and I am anxious to hear when Buxley might be back. I don't want to see the issue get swept under the rug.

These guys may be polite and professional, but they don't sound very bright. It almost seems like airport security people, given their profession, should be up to speed on things like geocaching and planespotting, or at least familiar with the fact that they exist.

As I was jogging on the closed road today I looked real hard for signs indicating it was off limits to anything other than vehicles. I couldn't find any. There were several "No Trespassing" signs posted on the chainlink fences, facing out. They were positioned to indicate that the No Trespassing area was BEHIND the fences. In otherwords, "Don't you Dare Climb Over this Fence and Through the Barbed Wire" In addition, the barricades at the end of the road went across the asphalt, but NOT across the sidewalk. That says to me that the area is open if you don't drive. Besides, if it were truely a closed area, security should have been kicking people out all along. By the way Lemur, kudos for your understanding attitude. In the same situation I'm not sure I could have kept my cool as well as you did. The upside is that you'll have a GREAT story and a lot of travel bugs to spread around.

I went running over there today. Since I live nearby, I have gone to that cache several times to drop off travel bugs. The road is closed to traffic but used by joggers, dog walkers, and bicyclists. There are usually several security vehicles around too. As of this afternoon there were still NO signs indicating that the area was off limits to pedestrians. I jogged right by a motorcycle cop twice without him giving me a second glance. Like Renegade Knight, some things bother me. Why was this such a terrible place for a cache? Its OPEN to the public and separated from the airport by a chainlink fence topped with barbed wire. Yes, terrorists COULD plant a bomb here. This area is probably a half mile from any terminals. Maybe it would be easier for them to just drive into the airport? Yes, terrorists COULD shoot at the airplanes from this area...and from a thousand other places along the takeoff and landing pattern. Yes, terrorists COULD cut through the fence and get out onto the runways. That would be bad. Thats why we have security vehicles there. I don't have a problem with that. Anyway, the cache was on the other side of the road, well away from the fence. So the word "overreaction" comes to mind. It especially galls me that the plain clothes guy would yell at Lemur even after he understood the whole geocaching thing. Instead, shouldn't he be yelling at his security guys for allowing 2 log books full of people to access the cache undetected over the past two years? And it worries me that, while no judge or jury could have convicted Lemur of anything, in this atmosphere of fear he could have been detained indefinitely without any rights whatever. There, I said it. Flame away.

Buxley has added a new note to his main page. He says Groundspeak hasn't gotten back to him since they first contacted him, but he is waiting hopefully.

Thanks guys! Appreciate the help.

Is there a way someone can run a cache idea or cache location by an approver before they actually submit the cache? I'd hate to do all the work and find out the location I chose wouldn't be approved. I haven't been able to find any approver email addresses other than the official cache submission form.

According to Buxley's website, a Groundspeak representative has now contacted him and talks are underway. He says he is "cautiously optimistic".

I used Buxley's almost exclusively to find caches. Much easier to use than the GC.com maps, mainly because you could roll the curser over the dot to see the name. No "identify" and no annoying expired pages to deal with. I even liked being able to see the archived caches just to know the cache history of an area I was looking at. Now, in the space of a few weeks, Buxley's isn't updating and GC.com won't let us cheap non-premium types pan or zoom anymore. What to do? Well, even out of date, Buxley's is still useful. Find a cache in the area you are interested in, and hit the "nearest caches" link to check for any new ones. Should be workable, just more of a hassle. Barring that, there's still the old GC maps where you CAN zoom. Hope they can work something out. Javaa