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Don't forget, there were more people than just the approvers putting together bugs (I think) And I think everyone who keeps a JeepTB moving without hanging on to it deserves some thanks. So, let's give EVERYONE a big, proverbial pat on the back...

Not only am I eCcentric, but I'm a card-carrying licensed deputy of the spelling police. Seeing as their mission is an honorable one, I'll let them slide on this violation. Off-Topic: Don't police officers generally have badges, not cards? On-Topic: That's awesome, their new tourism slogan can be "Virginia is for Lovers of Geocaching!"

Multiple times a week, if not multiple times a day, these forums are the source of angst for geocaching.com members, but moreso for our approvers, reviewers, and moderators. Every once and a while, it is nice to see a thread complimenting the approvers and other assorted volunteers, and yet, there hasn't been one lately, specifically regarding the Jeeps. I don't know how many people know just how much work went into the Jeep contest this year, but I myself just learned. The Jeeps came with "some assembly required." People had to take them out of the boxes, unscrew them from a plastic base, and put the tags and keychains on them before they could be distributed. In my own area Keystone and his family, donated several hours of his time to assemble them. I just wanted to thank Keystone, and everyone else who is helping get the bugs assembled and out in the wild. Whether you're a Groundspeak Approver or just a volunteer for your local area, you deserve a pat on the back. Thanks Guys!

Congratulations...

Need any volunteers for westmoreland county? Edit: serious typo

I saw this site at some point in the recent past, I don't think there were any of the stories about anything other than Chernobyl. It's still definately worth a read, I thought it was really interesting the first time...

Yah, I agree with just about everyone above. I've always logged what I took and left, and I've never really thought about it twice before now...

I didn't mean for this thread to cause any angst in the forums, and yet, right after I posted it, I knew it probably wouldn't turn out well. Anyway, I'm locking this, because I don't think the discussion is being very productive...

I agree with you wholeheartedly there Carleen...

Our recent discussions at Tri-Go were what got me thinking of this. But I was not referring directly to that set. Nor do I want this topic to be about it. I have no expierence with that set of micros, but the topic in general is what got me interested. Is this generally considered a good thing or a bad thing?

Rest assured Lep, we weren't discussing any of your caches. It was just something that came up and I wanted other's opinions on it. And your opinion is exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm pretty sure I know which cache your referring to, and it's definately on my to-do list for next time we do any serious caching in the city. But you mentioned trying to change the cache slightly, by changing the hiding spot and the container. What if the cacher isn't really trying, they're just endlessly putting film canister after film canister into a knot-hole in a tree or something. I'm reminded of one of my favorite classic computer games "Lemmings" in which the Lemmings repeatedly jump off cliffs into the ocean if not told any better... I have one cache, that if it were damaged in any way, or muggled, I might very well just archive, whereas another of my caches, I think is pretty cool, and I'd make every attempt to keep it up. It comes down to lame caches vs. cool caches. In my opinion almost all of your caches fall into the cool category, if not the extremely cool category. But let's say, that the cache in my scenario isn't really incredibly good. It's a run of the mill, film canister micro in a random park, in an area that could easily support a larger cache...

I think he means the one that's generally on the right of the cache page. Just the small window that you can click on to go to an elarged map on mapquest. Nevertheless, it should be there automaticaly...

This topic came up as part of a discussion in my local forum, and while the question wasn't really posed in the original topic, I thought it was an interesting question. Say you have an urban micro cache, that repeatedly disappears, gets muggled, whatever. And everytime it disappears, you are out on location within a week to check the location and to put out a replacement if necessary. Same spot, same hide style. By doing that, you're doing your duties as a cache owner, and maintaining the cache, but the question is whether that's a good thing. Is it possible that this is also an example of bad maintenance? I think it's incredibly possible that you're doing more harm than good. Think about it, the location is "compromised." Everytime you put it back you're sort of increasing the chances that a non-geocacher will remove it again. Quite frankly, if any of my caches got muggled, if I even replaced the cache, I would change the location to reduce the risk of the same people getting it again. But that's my opinion. So, repeatedly replacing the container like the first example, is it showing that you're responsible, or is it showing that you're sort of careless...

I decided to do a little detective work. I looked at one of your hidden geocaches and used the "Find all nearby" caches link to go through the lists. I found an Earthcache and I believe it's the one you're referring to in your complaint. I won't post it here however, because I don't feel it is polite to single out the cache owner. But after reading through the cache page, I see no noticable problems. It's on land managed by the Bureau of Land Management and it's open to the public. How is having a posting of it here any different that maybe it being in a local guidebook, or a ranger telling anyone who comes into the visitor center about it..

My one complaint however is the lack of being able to have street navigation to the point. Generally, if you click the center point it will offer you "get directions to here" or "from here" but that's not the case. Am I doing something wrong, or is this just something that happens.. Other than that, it's awesome...

Just tried that... That's pretty cool...

That link (even after I removed the unecessary extra set of "http://") does not work. It leads to Microsoft.com

I agree with TossedSalad, I think you need to give cachers a better chance than just random guessing. (Unless it's a small lake) I'd recomend maybe a multiple choice question. You could even change it every month. Considering that this cache involves a boat, maybe the question could be about boating or water safety, or maybe it could be a question about the lake itself...

This is how I get to most caches (with my dad driving of course): But on several occasions, I was surprised that I didn't get to ride home in one of these: And once or twice, I thought I was close to getting a ride in one of these:

My dad and I were doing a multi that went around a fairly small, but kind of big resevoir. It was perfectly fine up until we got to the third stage. Then it started pouring. Anticipating what would be an easy finish to the cache, I told my dad to take the dog back to the Jeep. Luckily we had our FRS radios and both had GPS units. I kept going, at this point I was on a varrow narrow trail with a drop off into a creek on one side and the resevoir on the other, and myself standing in a puddle. I was fine in the rain, until crack boom, there was lightning no more than a few miles away. Quickly, I relayed my relayed my location to my dad, and he was able to find a road closer to me than where we was parked. He went down to the new spot, and once I put coordinates into my GPS I sprinted... I have never run so fast in my life...

Just reading through that Shadowlands website, I've discovered a lot of high quality, GRADE A bullsh*t It has a lot of local areas that are supposedly haunted, but you can tell, whoever submitted the stories took quite a bit of artistic license in writing the details. I've got an idea however, that involves more local legend than anything else...

I am a member of my local historical society. I've never really pitched geocaching to any of the members or anything, but on more than one occasion, I've used the society's library to look up information for geocaches...

Generally, you can go to the cache page, and click find all logs, and then use your browser's search feature (Generally called "Find" under the edit menu) and type in the name,it will bring it up if it's there...

There is indeed a group in the Pittsburgh area, of which I am a member. I speak only for myself when I say this, but I don't think we would want to run this. There are multiple groups in PA, and none of us are incredibly organized... By the way, I'm assuming your talking about Society for Creative Anarchism's Pennsic War held there every year?

I agree with that, but I also specifically agree with Sax. I mean, you guys were working together, and you got FTF together, you should both claim it. But at the same time, really it's only the final stage that counts. For example, say a guy saw a new multi. First thing in the morning, he went out, but was only able to find the first stage, later in the afternoon, you came along and found all three and the final... You get FTF, not the other guy...