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The setting of the mark in the picture...Well I was surprised to find it in the first place because it is just outside of a newly constructed library. The old building was demolished and the new library put in its place and I am nearly certain they poured new sidewalks around the building including where the mark is located. But when the first log for GB1662 was made in 2005 the old building was still in place so it is conceivable that the sidewalk around it had been there for sometime but I cannot say for sure. I will try to do some investigating and find out...I am an aquaintance of the county historian but I do not know if he would know anything about benchmarks.

Just to make sure I took my camera with me and took a pic of the benchmark in question. Here it is... It definitely has S 77 1935 stamped on it....GB1662 is supposed to have LIVINGSTON 1935 stamped on it. Any ideas?

Thanks for the replies. I have been to the courthouse...several times...and that is the only benchmark that I or another geocaching friend have been able to find. It says S 77 1935 just like in the picture. The original benchmark at Livingston...GB1662 is nowhere to be found. The benchmark that I found does not match up with the description for GB1662 as that description would put it just a few feet from one of the entrances to the courthouse and the one I found is across the street.

I am relatively new to benchmarking. I have found a couple in my home area of TN and they have mostly been at courthouses. What I need help with is that there is a benchmark near the Courthouse in Livingston, TN and it is stamped S 77 1935. Here is a picture of the BM... the pic is not mine but I have seen this mark so I know exactly where it is...Coordinates of N 36 22.989 W 085 19.341 are pretty spot on. As I said it is just off the square in Livingston but if you search for S 77 in TN then it lists this as being 2.2 miles south of Byrdstown which is in the next county north of Livingston/Overton County. So my question is...Is the physical mark the one that should be in Byrdstown or is there another explanation? Again I am new to this and any help would be appreciated.

I'll bet that everyone that has posted so far has been guilty of using the cell phone while driving at least once. It is a good law...TN has all sorts of bans on cell phones and even a seatbelt law...but no matter how many laws you enact people are still gonna do what they want to do. How long have we had speeding laws? Nobody breaks those laws

Too bad the Original Poster does not have the right to delete logs...cause you could probably use it when all the dead horse people get to this thread. Now to answer your question...no they will not be brought back. There is now a whole website devoted to virtuals...Waymarking.com

Not being placed to begin with might be more accurate. There is no such thing as an unstealable cache

Sorry but I don't think feedback is allowed or tolerated in these forums. It kinda gets in the way of people posting meaningless replies...like this one.

It really depends on the situatiuon. I almost always try to look for a few minutes before going to the hint but sometimes I will read the hint before getting out of the vehicle.

Fixed Restored that for you.

I think those are two excellent ideas. You made a great analogy in the first point. I would love to see that implemented. I placed a cache and after answering the questions regarding terrain it said it should be a 4 and that is what I placed it as but I would really like to know what the cachers who found it thought about it. Was it overrated? Nobody has mentioned it in their logs but if the option was there perhaps they might.

I/we used a nalgene bottle on our underwater hide (2-3 feet of water). At first we just used lots of rocks to weight it down and when we checked on it there was moisture inside but not a lot of water...could have come from the rocks. Fixed it with concrete and put log in a match holder inside nalgene bottle. Log is good and dry now. Some moisture still in nalgene bottle though.

Hey...2 friends and I hid that cache under a team account. Thanks for calling it good.

Yes it is a game and if I am glad you treat them as guidelines instead of strict rules because there will always be some exceptions to every rule. It sucks that you had to come on here and explain yourself though.

Well the one that has the gift card is a challenge cache in which you have to find the five oldest caches in ten (5x10=50) of the counties that make up the Upper Cumberland Region of Tennessee. I am six caches away from completing the challenge myself. I also have a gift card for another challenge cache under my TeamJaycee account. Both are in Middle Tennessee.

After you have submitted your cache for approval...view the listing...click on upload image in the navigaton box which is located in the upper right hand corner of the cache page...upload image is the sixth one listed...after you successfully upload an image view that image in another window and copy the complete http from the address bar for that image and paste it into your cache page via the edit listing link which is also in the navigation box. You will need to check the box that the descriptions below are in html and you will need a basic understanding of html in order to get the image to show up. Namely this...<img src="http://blahblah">...Hope this helps.

I would have had no problem if you had done the latter part of my question...it is just that some people would have gotten a little upset if you had of...they might have even started a whole topic or 2 or 10 on that subject...oh wait, they already have. That kinda sucks about your FTFs not having a prize or even a decent log. I only have 10 FTFs and the best prize so far has been a $5 gift card to DQ. I have a $20 gift card to "The Old Country Store" waiting on whomever finds one of my yet to be found caches.

Sounds like you had a great day. I went 21-0 one day last April. It was a lot of fun. Now be careful how you answer the following question because it could get you in trouble with some people on this forum... Did you employ the Lost Art of Logging by giving each of your logs lots of time and consideration or did you just copy and paste "Find X of 14 today. TFTC SL"?

Hunting dryland fish (that is what we call morel mushrooms round these parts) is a common pastime of many people around Middle Tennessee. I have hunted and ate them all my life.

This topic is like the complete opposite of "The Lost Art of Logging" topic. Seriously though...I like the ROOT acronym but if someone had left that on a log for one of my caches before I read this thread I would have been highly perplexed.

First to Respond...wanted to do that for a long time. (I won't do it again...I promise.) I think I would tie it in with the difficulty level. If I didn't mention anything about a rock I would up the difficulty on the cache and lower the difficulty level if I mentioned something about a rock in the cache description or the hint. So I guess you need to determine how difficult you want the cache to be. EDIT: grammar and speling.

Your part is to avoid the tromping around in a damaging way to begin with. It's not the job of the cache owner to make sure you know how to tip toe in tulips. While the cache owner should consider folks who tromp, they only need to do so because folks insist in ripping things up like a bear digging for grubs. If all finders (it only takes one hamfist not doing the right thing...) did what they should do, there would be no problem for a cache onwer to worry about. I was not trying to damage any of their plants but if it is located in the shrubs I have to walk around and in between them to give the area a good once over. Any cache that is hidden in a shrub will eventually cause that shrub and probably any surrounding shrubs damage over time by all the cachers moving branches and what not. My point was that this could easily have been avoided on this cache by a simple note that the cache was not in the landscaping. I try to follow the directions on the cache page...that is what the page is for.

I was FTF on a cache just the other day and it was hidden at the entrance to a driveway on a rural road. The cache page said the owners had helped to hide the cache so there was no stealth needed. There was lots of rocks and landscaping near GZ and it turned out the cache was not in the landscaping but on the gate at the front but the cache page did not mention to stay out of the landscaping and GZ was actually in the landscaping for me so I tromped around a bit until I finally found it. My point is if you want people to stay out of the landscaping then you should make it clear on the cache page that the cache is not hidden in that area and to stay out of there because if the cache can be anywhere around 20 feet from where my gpsr says it is then I will look anywhere in that area unless told not to.

So could we actually get an answer to some of the legitimate questions raised in this topic...are there any guidelines or restrictions on geocaching names? or How are sock puppets able to type on a keyboard to create an account anyhow?

For many WA challenge caches, the D/T reflect the overall difficulty of completing the challenge - e.g., the Well-Rounded Washington Cacher (Fizzy) Challenge is a 5/5 because you have to find caches with those ratings as part of the challenge. The challenge final itself is not a 5/5. I have published two challenge caches...one under my own account and another under a team account and for both of them I made the D/T ratings reflect the overall challenge. Since the other caches are part of the challenge it only makes sense to include them in the D/T ratings.