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Thanks - that makes sense.

OK, I think I understand what you asked: Why can't somebody call a cache "found", simply because he was there, because simply being there is enough to log Event caches. Is that what you meant? If so, I'll bite, and just go with the black and white, not the "nuances". BECAUSE it is NOT an Event cache. Different type caches have different set-ups, purposes, and logging requirements. Even Earth and Virtual caches require more than just showing up at the coordinates and "experiencing" it. If the experience is all you're after, by all means do that ... just don't expect to get a smiley [or souvenir] if you don't follow the logging requirements.

Thanks!

Sorry: Clueless is my middle name. How did you know that?

I saw those and was wondering if they disappeared regularly. Nevermind. Don't care. Gonna get some.

Let me see if I understand what you just posted. Are you asking: If an Event owner gets a Souvenir [because he attended and therefore "found" the cache], why shouldn't he get a Souvenir as a Cache owner ... though he is not allowed to log a "found" on that cache? Since he's able to claim an Attended (find), why can't he claim a find on his cache? I'm sorry. I just want to be sure what you're saying.

As to the OP: I'm not sure I've had enough DNFs to qualify for anything. Unless we turn that into a percentage, maybe. THEN, I might be cookin' with gas! (eligible)

Agree! I do the same when I've been to caches that it's obvious searches have been made but no DNFs have been logged. If nothing else, it helps the next cacher know there are more DNFs than meet the eye.

OK, thanks for that. I'll recheck the sources you mention for what I missed. So if the static location for a clue is in a particular cache, and it's owned by somebody needing a clue ... ? (I'm thinking cache poor areas again.)

Oh wow. Thanks for that perspective; I might just have to do that. About face! Forward. March!

Point well taken. I've seen several ships docked at the same port, and wondered how many of the passengers on various ships might be heading to geocaches. The same could be said for events, as well. I guess it would be important to be sure not to word it in such a way that it seems to be a "let's go find all the caches here" event.

As far as cruising to another country and hosting an event at whatever port - especially when there are no caches near the port ... If there are *any* caches, there should be somebody who is caching-savvy, at least (such as a person involved in a maintenance plan). If there are none ... what is the purpose of the event? How would anybody know about it? I will tell you of one time I did consider having a land event somewhere at a cruise's port city. GIFF. Would have been LOTS of muggles , but my thinking was that it could introduce a whole lot of folks to geocaching in nice little bite-sized pieces. An appetizer party of geocaching, so to speak. Not having contacts at the port city made the logistics cumbersome, at best. In the end, the cruise was cancelled.

I travel to a particular spot in the Deep South (USA) regularly because I still have a home there and tend to its upkeep. Upon the very rare occasions that spare time presents itself, I have done a little cache hunting. The majority of caches are in a nearby college town, and I noticed many that were well-tended for a few years, then eh. (Maybe they graduated?) I will have to do some extensive work, spanning a few weeks, adding up to more bits of spare time. I sent a message to a few long-term cachers in that area who had recent finds (meaning, I hoped, they were still active), asking for tips they might be willing to share, such as the caches that seemed to be no longer maintained/were the COs still active?, don't-miss caches ... and stressed that I wanted no hints. I also asked how active the caching community was, and if they thought there would be any turn-out if I were to host an event when I was there. ( I really *would* like to meet the local cachers.) I got a nice, welcoming, and complete response from one, who said she not only would be at least one more person besides me at an event ?, but also would like to hit some caches that she'd rather not do alone. (Her "muggband" doesn't cache.) Win-win! I've emailed with an ex-pat friend in another country about having an event, but it would be at a city center location, nowhere near a terminal of any sort. I hope that would still fly (no pun intended) when/if that becomes a reality.

If you're using the app, scroll to the bottom of the listing for that cache, and tap "Open in browser" first. The above answers fill in the rest.

Or those who are in a cache-poor area. I'm wondering if COs will get to know if their cache contains a virtual clue (if they haven't created a new one). Also whether, since the clue is virtual, its location is not static. As in, Clue A for Player A might be contained in (awarded for finding) Cache A, while Clue A for Player B might be "in" a different cache.

Yes, I found myself avoiding Earthcaches unless I'm traveling [way] out of town, in anticipation of International Earthcache Day. The only ones I haven't found are more than 30 miles away. Of the 10 in the 40 miles range, 6 require a boat. ?‍♂️ ? Maybe I should just get over that Souvenir day.

Maine U Cooperative Extension explains some techniques in YouTube video. (I wonder how they talked the demo guy into volunteering!) Tick Removal - You Tube

It was Ruggled! ?

Had to do some tweaks on a cache recently, so pulled on my cap, applied the deep woods off and had cargo pants stuffed with rope, duct tape, wire nippers, screwdrivers, spray paint, wrenches, etc. You know, the usual. ? Finally got all that sorted out and hopped in the car to check on another that I hadn't visited recently. I knew the library standing nearby was closed that afternoon, so figured it would be pretty deserted ... except for geocachers maybe. As I pulled onto the street in the little town (pop. 750ish), I noticed the car ahead pulled into the empty library lot. Hmm. I pulled into my pre-approved "CO parking spot" quite some distance away, and watched for a minute. Nobody got out of the other car. This cache is a 1/1.5, so I thought maybe this was a new cacher getting her bearings. I walked over to see if she might like some assistance or company looking for the cache. After a rather long beat, she rolled down her window and raised her eyebrows. "Are you geocaching?" "I'm returning some books - Geo-whatting?" "Oh. Okay, so no. Sorry." "No, wait! What's that?" I ended up showing her the app and offered to let her use my phone to find the cache, but she insisted on downloading it, right then and there, made up a username, and went straight - well, almost straight, I had to warn her not to run into the bush - to GZ. It's a stocked ammo can, so I got to explain all about TRADE items. I offered her a choice, free of trade, but she raced back to her car and brought back a couple of not-so-good items (granola bar and hand lotion), and another perfect one. After trading, she signed the log, and recamoed the cache like a veteran. We exchanged phone numbers, and I felt really good about this experience, and even more so when she said, "I am so glad I rolled down the window!" Until she added, "I thought you were going to ask to wash my windshield."

And nonchalantly added, "Picked up TB. Cache # xxxx." So unflapped! ?

This may just be my backwards way of thinking, but I figure DNFs *are* important; however, the reward is in the find after DNF-ing. Always satisfaction in getting a tough find, but that feeling when finding one that eluded you before? Suweeet!

Bummer! Hire a donkey? j/k

OP: Not much incentive left to improve technique if DNFs are rewarded. (Though I have to admit that I've read some really great DNF logs - and not saying that facetiously.) That was the first thing that came to my mind, too.

Earth caches might be a safer bet - at least as backup - in that situation ... if there are any near the port and don't require a dissertation to log.

Hmm. Didn't see that phenomenon on the ones I checked around Cheltenham Badlands Earthcache . Guess mileage may vary. Writing a good log is suggested multiple times by many, including HQ. Just a guess, but perhaps a reward of sorts for doing that?