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Kevin & Susan

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  1. This is sad. What IS it with people wanting a cache archived? Are they angry they went on an adventure and weren't able to find a Tupperware container while on that adventure? Do they want to "get even with the [person]" that "made" them go out wasting their time looking for something that is not there? Look at the BIG picture... You got outside and got some exercise, fresh air, maybe saw some really cool scenery, some wildlife, packed some nice memories into your brain... While the posting of a "Find" on any cache that you didn't actually find is lame and pathetic, whether it be a physical or a virtual, what you should realize is that this is JUST A SILLY GAME! Who cares who posts finds on a virtual they didn't actually complete as required? It simply doesn't matter. That is the decision of the individual who will live with their conscience. All that happens when you archive a cache is that it is no longer viewable by anyone other than those who posted or saved it on a watch list. Those that might have seen it and want to actually enjoy the adventure of this particular cache, or view the stories and photos posted to it, will never see it once it's archived. A virtual like this one, by nature, is NO MAINTENANCE. The owner can leave Geocaching and never return, but the great opportunity to go out on a grand adventure like this can remain indefinitely, for anyone who sees this cache on the site and decides they want to try it. It's not hurting anyone. It's just "there" for all armchair cachers to read about and enjoy vicariously through those who have left their photos and stories, or to actually go do it themselves. Way back when we did this one and collected the original cash prize as the first to complete, there was talk of archiving it "since there was no longer a prize". Oh brother! Give me a break! Since when is it a requirement for a virtual to have a cash prize to remain? Insanity. There are those in the geocaching community that seem to believe this is serious business, and points are being earned to become the "Grand Master Geocacher" or something. Jeeez! People! Bragging rights and thinking yourselves as better than anyone else by the number and difficulty of the caches you have found is totally lame and childish. Again... IT's JUST A SILLY GAME! Play it whatever way you feel happy with, and ignore those who play it differently, or in a way you don't like. No one gets hurt. We stopped posting finds years ago because of this very reason. It was getting crazy with all the seriousness and the accusations of supposed "cheating" going around. We find caches and post notes or photos if we feel the cache brought us to something cool or interesting, but never feel that we gotta make sure everyone knows "we found it". But that's just us. Others feel it important to make sure everyone knows every step they take and every cache they find. Some even seem to like putting others down for not playing the game the same as them. Whatever. To each, their own. Just don't spoil the game for those who play it different than you by insisting removal of a cache because someone posts they found it without fulfilling the cache page requirements. The owner can delete their find, if they choose. It's NOT anyone else's business or obligation to do so. If the cache owner is no longer active to do this, what harm is it causing to let jokers post a find? Archiving for that reason only hurts those who may have seen this virtual and decided to go do it. It hurts the people who actually did it and will no longer be able to share their experiences with the geocaching community in the posts they left. To us, archiving a virtual like this one is like erasing a part of geocaching history. Just throw it out and forget it ever existed. New-comers to Geocaching will never know, and will be content in finding their 1/1 caches every .1 mile along a city part path, or reaching out their car window to find a cache under a lamp post cover in a mall parking lot.
  2. EScout: Hmmm... That almost sounds like this cache: Pandora's Box
  3. Thanks Marky and WalruZ! You're both very convincing with your recommendations and the cool photo of Coyote Hills Reg. Park. Travelling all the way across the bay IS probably a bit ambitious, given how little time I'll have. Maybe I should stick around the East Bay and get more trail time as opposed to drive time. I'll come prepared for SFO, but will only head that way as time allows. But I'd love to ''kiss the dog'' AND hear ''the sounds of The Bay''... Maybe I should let Susan go home without me and I'll stay up there for a week or two!!!
  4. Hey Ben! I think meeting up with you would be great. Thanks for the offer. I'll send you an email with my home & cell #'s and we can hack out the details. As far as the high desert adventures go... I got an email from those Canucks last October saying they had some more stuff planned for down our way, but nothing has materialized yet---as far as I know. I assured them that our own SoCal Admin was an ally (they don't seem to get much cooperation from the Canadian admin) who would most likely approve anything they submitted down this way. Having company on another trek like those would be most welcome. I never saw a soul on the last two wilderness excursions. Kev :~)
  5. Hi all, Long-time SoCal geocachers here. Susan's got business in Newark Feb. 23-24 and I'm tagging along to put her company-paid rental car to good use while she earns a living. Our flight arrives Monday (23rd) in OAK at 8:00am and I'll need to drop her off at the office down in Newark before being set free. We catch a flight Tuesday at 3:00pm for Long Beach. We're not cache marathoners. A huge day for us is 6-8 caches, with a record 13. And we don't really care about hunting/finding every cache in a given area. But covering alot of ground to get a few ''prime'' caches in scenic spots is not a problem. Any recommends? I kinda want to get across the bay to San Francisco first, then work my way back. Maybe a loop trip from the Newark area clockwise or counter-clockwise---whichever works best. I pretty much know my way around the Marin penninsula and the city of SFO from several past (pre-geocaching days) visits to do the Dipsea race and the Escape From Alcatraz Triatlon. But I'll be covering new ground in the Oakland/East Bay/Fremont areas. Thanks, in advance, for your help/suggestions.
  6. Just got a reply to our email from m&m pirates. Looks like he's legit. Said he'd go check on the cache. We feel much better now. []
  7. Greeting SoCal Geo-neighbors, We've got a question: Does anyone down there know the ''m&m pirates''? Have you met them/him/her? We came down early Friday to see the Miramar NAS airshow and spent some time in and around the cave at La Jolla Cove searching for their Pirates Hide Away cache. Scoured the place with no luck. When we got home last night, we checked their profile... It shows they just joined Sept. 12th with no finds and only the one hide to their name. And they haven't logged on to the site since Sept 28th. We emailed them, but have yet to hear from them. Are they for real? Or are they REAL pirates playing a joke on everyone/US? Is there a cache there, or not? If it's a joke, it's a great one. We fell for it. HA! HA! I was suspicious when I first read the cache description stating ''The altitude of the cache is about 6 feet above water line at low tide''. Even if there was a cache placed, at HIGH tide with any kind of swell, it would be washed away. So. What's the scoop? Anyone know? It was a fun day down there. We might feel a bit embarrassed if it is a dupe, but just curious as to the truth...
  8. Lac Vert said: quote:We actually looked for Kevin and Susan on the web and couldn't find you as users, but must not have been typing in the key words right for the user names. If you're logged in, you can just click on a user name to see they're profile. Thanks for making our day with your post on Boomer's.
  9. Too bad this one is archived: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=15323 The name fits the ''bug''!
  10. Wow! We were the only ones to find and log that cache way back in March, 2002. No one else ever posted attempting it, and the owner didn't check on it until 3 months later. He claimed it was missing at that time and we figured he would've known how to find his own cache, so we assumed it was definately gone. We even emailed him several times offering to meet down there to confirm it, but never got a reply back. We believe he was out of the country (In Europe) during that period. Haven't had an opportunity to get back down to dive there since (we live 100 miles north in LA). It would be cool to see photos of it after all this time. You can see our photos at the cache page link Hemlock created above. [This message was edited by Kevin & Susan on October 13, 2003 at 09:02 PM.]
  11. We usually put ''Please treat all caches as if they were your own and rehide them properly and in a stealthy manner...'' on our cache pages.
  12. Here's two examples: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=67418 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=41350
  13. Not our site, but a local-area site managed by friends: http://scgeocachers.org/index.php
  14. Used a Garmin etrex while working for Sprint on their now-defunct Multi-channel Multi-point Distribution System (MMDS) wireless internet known as Sprint Broadband Direct Wireless (BWG). We recorded a customer's location in relation to the mountain-top antennas into a computer database. It also helped determine the direction and distance to the antennas while at the customer's site when the horizon was too hazy to make a visual. One of several ''bugs'' in BWG was that a clear ''line-of-sight'' was required to qualify for the service, so that the relativey weak upload signal from the customer's antenna could reach the mountain top. And another was the distance from the mountain top. The weak upload signal had a 25-30 mile max reach for optimum internet access. The luckiest customers were getting download speeds on their PC's of 6-8 Mbps, and uploads of 300-350 kbps. The average was 4Mbps/150kbps. Not too shabby. The worst ''bug'' of all, and the one that really doomed the service, was it's success. The more customers we brought online in a given sector (node), the slower the service became, until it became as slow as dial-up at peak use hours. I liked working for Sprint, but their bold willingness to be the testers of new technology was also the reason for them laying off over 3500 employees across the country in 2001 when it didn't pan out [This message was edited by Kevin & Susan on May 10, 2003 at 05:24 PM.]
  15. Never even consider what any of our hobbies cost us. You just can't look at extra-curricular activities in a cost sense. What would life be without them? We can definately say that it cost alot less than many of our other hobbies/interests. More bang for the buck, you might say.
  16. We're sure someone will pipe in with details, but early-on in geocaching history (we were just newbies then) there were a series of caches placed around the world by (we think) the promoters of the re-make of the movie ''Planet of the Apes'' that had recently been released in theaters. There was one in the Santa Monica or San Gabriel mountains here in the Los Angeles area. And I think there was one up in Washington state. They were supposed to have contained ''artifacts'' proving the existence of the evolution of intelligent apes who ruled the earth or something like that. We never attempted them. So we have no record of their GC #'s. We know there was atleast one or two that found the LA area cache before it went missing.
  17. Hey Fractal! RE: Radioactive Marbles... Would it be dangerous to carry them in your pants pocket? Hehehe...
  18. Here's what's wrong with a ''cheap'' bike: #1.) Very heavy frame (not worth upgrading parts/components later). #2.) Cheap wheel rims that ''taco'' just jumping off a curb. #3.) Brake and deraileur components that are made of plastic and break easily (and the shops don't carry those cheap components so you either have to order them from the manufacturer or upgrade---*see #1) Our advice: There's tons of ''Yuppies'' who buy top-of-the-line bikes and then decide it's not for them. They sell them in the want-ads for half what they paid, or even less. Look for a quality, light-weight framed bike. Even if the components are cheap, you can feel good about upgrading them later when you become bike-savy. We ride an chromoly-steel Trek hardtail (21 lbs.)and an old aluminium Proflex full suspension (28 lbs.). Also own an ancient Specialized Hardrock (our first mountain bike) which is still going strong (22 lbs.)--However, they don't make 'em like they did 20+ years ago
  19. The made-for-TV movie ''Return To The Batcave: The misadventures of Adam and Burt'', http://www.cbs.com/specials/batcave/ which aired March 9th, had scenes filmed around this cache by the infamous Morty's Twisted World: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=33811
  20. Here's a cache that has been well received by local cachers and was set up in a similar manner to what you are thinking: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=41350
  21. Read my post here: http://opentopic.Groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1750973553&f=6770936793&m=7700987435
  22. Hmmm... I'm just a little pissed right now. I remember the original thread by some newbie complaining about their precious TB in the geocaching.com forums. Originally, they were flamed pretty good for complaining about someone only having their TB for 3-4 weeks when others had lost TB for months. But because OP was/is not the kind to easily respond to people's emails, that over-sensitive newbie got all huffy. I remember sending OP a link to the thread and we kinda laughed over it. I never went back to that thread again, or any subsquent threads, and so I never realized how escalated it grew. Now, after reading these threads, I'm shocked. It could very well have caused OP to either get fed up and quit, or those squeeky-wheeled newbies got enough support from the distant geocaching community (who didn't know OP) to get him banned from the site. It was not his way to answer to people for such trivial matters, so he would never respond with a defense. In either case, I'd rather have one OP than a hundred of those people who helped deride him and cause him to leave this game. OP was one of the founding members of SoCal geocaching and brought alot of good to the sport. He created some of the best, most unique, and challenging caches around. Others got their inspiration and ideas from his firsts. He showed us all what could be done. Just because he liked to stay annonymous, and wasn't always forthcoming with email replies, was NO reason to think bad of him. He always did the right thing, in time. He WAS NOT so much a finder, as a HIDER. That was his forte. He liked placing challenges for ALL of us to conquer. Susan and I met him twice in person, and knew him to be a very nice person. He only infrequently replied to our emails. But that was OK by us. We really appreciated his hides and respected his privacy. It seems sad to think there is a possibility that a couple newbies with no knowledge of his ways and his contributions to geocaching, could squeal loud enough to get him to quit, or worse yet, officially banned from geocaching. I considered him my friend. I am very upset that those threads ever developed. And extremely angry if they got him out of geocaching
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