BlueMoth

So here is a question I have been mulling over for a couple of weeks. Rather than start a new thread, I'll ask it here. Everyone complains about rocks thrown down as swag. I wouldn't dump a trail rock into any cache. But what do you all think of this idea. If I took, lets say, basalt from Mt. Hood, or Obsidian from Eastern Oregon, chipped off little bits and glued them on a card saying "Oregon Basalt/Obsidian complements of BlueMoth", and put the card into a 2 x 2 baggie, would anyone like to find that as swag? I also have a box of tiny quartz points collected from Northeastern Washington, and a bag full of Oregon beach agates. I would probably save the cards for when I travel to a region different than mine. I love geology and minerals, and would love to find rocks from other states in cache. I would also rather find a rock in a cache than a moldy McToy (not that I take either, but just sayin'). But that is just me.

If you google Tennessee state laws, and look it up for yourself, you will see that there is an exception to that law. Under EXEMPTIONS 46-1-106: http://www.michie.com/tennessee/lpext.dll?...m&cp=tncode It reads that the provisions in chapter one and two do not apply to family burial grounds and cemeteries owned by churches, religious organiations and municipalities. The criminal tresspassing provision is in chapter one, so anyone telling you you can't place a cache because it is "playing a game" in your own cemetery is wrong. Unless I am reading the provision wrong, then I am wrong, but I don't think I am.

From my home coordinates, one mile west of downtown Portland, Oregon, I get 2126 using the advancce seek page. When I ran a pq I knew it would be well over 1000. 21 are mine. 11 micros, 3 small and 7 regular. Yes, you can hide an ammo can in the city. We get a pretty good mix of cache types in Portland proper. We have Forest Park, over 5,000 acres whose edge is about 1 1/2 miles west of downtown. Many, many regular parks too. There is also the Willamette and Columbia river banks and various wetlands in which to hide larger caches. There is always something for everyone.

I just got one too. It must be a really boring Thursday night somewhere.

I don't know how you educate people who own tb prisons. I found a prison out in Gresham, it had one tb, which I liberated. Oh, gee, I didn't have one to trade. Too bad. I hope you find good caches to drop the tbs in. They must all be heaving a big sigh of relief.

I don't have a cache that is through a fairy door, yet. But I do have one that is next to one. Northwest Whimsey GC217WZ On a boarded up window below ground level is a fairy door set into a piece of plywood, with a little metal fireplace next to it. When you open the door you see a domestic scene inside. The fireplace has a "fire" burning in it. Someone put it up in my neighborhood several years ago. It is hidden pretty well, and it takes some looking to see it. Unfortunately, a few weeks after I put a cache on the pipe next to it, the door was pulled off. Someone also tried to pry off the fireplace, but I found it laying on the ground. I put the fireplace back up and am working on replacing the door. Sad, I hate to think a geocacher was responsible. edit to make the cache name comprehensible.

Yeah, who would be stupid enough to do that? Lucky I got out of there before the buzzards started circling...though one did fly overhead and swoop down for a look see.

Well I don't know about the trail of the Gods, but the trail of Fears (if you are starting at Primm) has "Private road" signs posted. Which is kind of weird because one of the roads/trails goes on up to Beer Bottle pass. I haven't explored out there enough to know if you can get to that the back way. There were other caches out there before the trail, so we'll see if everything on that side of the freeway get archived too. I am headed out that way right now with a pair of earplugs, I couldn't leave Nevada without giving it another go.

Glad you like the photos. Now that I have been out there, I can see how you or someone else could get them all in a day. I could see your route, and yeah, it is achievable. What I am dying to know is how you stood to be under these things for 24 hours? Didn't the buzzing drive you insane? If I wanted to torture someone, I would tie them up to a Nevada power tower. Of course I know about the spor, besides Joshua trees (and a few bushes), rocks are about the only thing you can hide a cache in around here. I just had to get out of there. When I come back in the fall, I am going to bring ear muffs and try one of the trails again (maybe, lol).

Here are the promised photos. Phobia power trail. Looking back to Primm. Approaching one of the buzz kill machines: The Phobia Power trail, east of Primm: A station base: One of buzzing tops Near gz, I think, I didn't stick around long enough to find out:

You are not kidding VK! How you have one brain cell left in your head is beyond me, lol. We got to the Phobia trail today after caching from Searchlight to Primm, just as the sun was going down. I got under one of those huge transmission lines, stayed long enough to take some photos and booked it out of there. Those towers look like huge black buzzards. They buzzzzzz and hummmmm and zzzzzzzzzt, and you literally feel like your brain just got dropped into a sizzling hot deep fryer. I kept telling myself to tough it out and find the cache. The first one was no go, so we drove on to the next tower and I couldn't stand to be under it either. I wasn't "afraid" of it, I just couldn't stand to be near it. It felt like a bee got dropped inside my head. Horrid. Since caching is supposed to be fun, I guess I can find some other places in the desert to play in. So a deep bow to those out there who have a harder head than I.

Ha, ha Bittsen, sure, you are here in spirit anyway. I think this will be an interesting and hard trail to do. I am not doing any planning before hand. just getting the coodinates for 20 caches or so and we'll see how it goes. I also don't like being under power lines, they creep me out. My hat is off to VK and anyone else that can stand to be under them for 24 hours and 500 caches.

I am going to do part of the totg power trail tomorrow. Probably won't go for more than an hour, because I don't have the usual 4wd mothmobile and I don't want to get a flat tire, and I have a half muggle/half cacher sis with me who doesn't want to spend the whole day under a bunch of power lines eating dirt in the desert. I am going to take lots of pics, and if anyone is interested, will post them here on the thread. Any requests?

To mountainman38, thanks for the tip. I finally got back on the site after an hour. I got enough caches for the day, going up the 14 and 395 and on into the valley. I go to Vegas a lot, so will have to come back sometime from Pahrump. And why SHOULD I have to do a pq? I am paying for access to this website, and if there is a feature that lets me scroll through maps, that feature should work and not boot me off. Last thing...it is snowing here in Tehachapi. How cool is that?

I am sitting here in a hotel in Tehachapi, and gc.com made me go and sit in the corner again. Great, just great. I was almost to edge of Death Valley on the maps, and got booted off. Its been half an hour and I still can't access the site. I am seriously you know what. I thought this was supposed to get fixed. On a lighter note to bramsoleiowa, look for Vertical View when you get home. You should have an idea where it will be. I don't think it will be hard to find unless you try to look for the listing scrolling through the Portland map.

I think this is exactly the problem. If you want to browse, forget it. Looks like whoever wants us looking for caches, wants us to download them via pq. Gee, sorry if I just like to scroll my way along and take a look see before I take off after a cache. I finally got back on the website last night and stayed up until after 3 am looking for caches. Haven't hit the road yet for making Mojave or Tehachapi, but at least I have the caches for the day. Thanks to all for explaining Greasemonkey and letting me know I wasn't alone here. No my browser is either Google Chrome or IE. Never had firefox or anything else. Sounds like that isn't the problem anyway. Not so angry this morning, but I probably will be if this happens again tonight.

Ok, so I just read the other thread, some very unhappy people there. What is "GreaseMonkey?" I told you all I was a luddite. All I can add to this tonight, since it is now 2 am, is; I have six caches to find from Sacramento to Modesto, no hope in a blue moon that I will be able to browse for more, and thanks, somone, for the ruination of my caching trip, which I had to beg and plead the muggles I am traveling with for. If the site kicks me back off when I need to look for the caches in Death Valley, I am really going to be angry. Whatever somone did to make me get this kind of message, needs to fix it, fast.

Great. All I can think about is all the caches I won't be getting tomorrow. Seriously, the purpose of this trip is to get into Death Valley for the afternoon of the 5th. There are three of us and we have never been there before. I want to get the Earthcaches there, and I am escorting a tb from England that wants to visit National Parks. So this really, really bums me out.

I am on a road trip right now, trying to get to Nevada, and stopped for the night in Sacramento. I am going down the 99 and want to detour through Death Valley. The night bere the next leg of the trip I always surf the map for interesting caches along my travel route. And when I find caches I like, I write the info down in my notebook. So tonight I am looking for caches from Sacramento to Mojave and the browser stops me dead and gives me this message: Whoa! Slow Down You've been redirected to this page because the site hamsters noticed you are viewing pages faster than humanly possible. There are several reasons why this may be happening: You may have installed an add-in for your browser that is doing things you don't see. You are using some automated tools to pull information on the site. You have super human abilities. What You Can Do Stop! Have a cup of coffee, glass of water or go out geocaching. We'll let you back in shortly. Disable any add-ons to your browser, like Greasemonkey, that may be hitting the site too fast. Stop using automated tools to access the site. Like Mos Eisley Cantina, we don't allow droids here. To the Super Humans We're jealous! Hopefully you are the hero types and not the villains, but we don't judge. Just don't steal geocaches. However, if you could be so kind as to slow down your super surfing, it would help our servers respond to other users that don't have super strength, speed, or tight fitting leotards. WHAAAT? I am such a luddite, I wouldn't know an add on to my browser if it bit me in the face, I don't know what an automated tool is, and I can assure tptb that I don't have super human abilities. So what is up with this nonsense? Browsing too fast? Again, whaaaat???? Right now, this isn't funny. I have to hit the road in the morning and I have exactly 6 caches written down for tomorrow. And please don't jump on me for not doing pqs in advance. Doing a map search lets me filter in the caches I want to find, and the caches I don't. Has this happened to anyone else out there? And the browser won't let me back onto the site. I am Seriously bummed out here.

USGenWeb.org has a tombstone transcription project. Here is a link. http://usgwtombstones.org/ Every state usually has a complete of cemeteries by county. Each state is run by a different volunteer though, and sometimes the contents are ordered differently. Michigan's project seems to be focused on a photographic record rather than a transcription record. To find if a cemetery has a cache, just type in its name and the state in the GC search engine. The cemetery will pop up. Like Nericksx said, best to look with a topographic view. Nericksx, I have bookmarks for all the caches in pioneer cemeteries in both Multnomah and Washington counties. I am working on Clackamas, Hood River, and a few other ones. I'll have to cross check mine with your bookmark if you have made it public. Yeah, I love just scrolling along the topo map for tiny forgotton cemeteries. I found a reference somewhere for a single grave of "Rum and Gum Charley", I think he was buried in Washington co. I HAVE to find that grave someday. The Oregon department of transportation did a cemetery survey in 1978 and published a book with every known cemetery or single grave in the state. You can find it one page at a time if you type in Oregon Cemetery Survey and the county you are looking for. Its good to cross check that list with the one on genweb.

Hey, I feel your pain at a good hide gone south, sorry that it happened, but my first reaction to the brown spot thing was dog pee. If the cache was along a bike/jogging path there have to be dogs, and where one dog goes, others will too. It doesn't take long for the grass to die off when that happens. Fungus is another cause of grass dying in patches and so are mite infestations. Unless there are sprinklers in the grass, it would all have been scorched dead by the end of August anyway. The west side of the Cascades is the only place I know where the grass is green in the winter and brown in the summer.

I use the "Coordinate Distance Calculator" when needed, here: http://boulter.com/gps/distance/ if that link doesn't work just type in what I said above, it will pop up.

It is absoutely possible to have a conference with the DA. Remember that the DA speaks and acts for the people of NY, you for example. Call the office and make an appointment. He/She will, I am sure, be happy to take into consideration any information you can offer in the matter at hand. This advice is from an assistant Atty. General for the state of California, who told me to pass it along.

Just out of interest I did a keyword search for caches with religious titles. I thought the results for the last few were pretty amusing. Christian: 135 Methodist: 88 Baptist: 230 Catholic: 69 Buddhist: 12 Jewish: 36 Hindu: 7 Muslim: 0 Sikh: 8 Jesus: 83 Buddha: 56 Allah: Doesn't count, kept returning caches with Callahan, Gallagher and Tallahassee. Holy: 781 Satanic: 4 God: 1 Satan: 34 Devil: 937 Heaven: 1123 Hell: 1818 Flying Spaghetti Monster: 1

All the logs I have in my micro caches are made of tyvek strips. It is cheap, a couple of bucks for a 23" X 35" sheet at Art Media in Portland. One sheet makes many strips. Yes, you can write on it, with a ballpoint, felt tip or sharpie. Pencil doesn't work too well. It will take printer ink too.