Mark 42

Plastic does decompose, some metals don't. Plastic is at least as easy as metal to recycle. I hate plastic. It has its place sometimes, but would you wear a plastic ring on your finger? Metal has class. Metal is durable. If it's stainless steel it will not decay. I agree that the current tag should have a brief outline of instruction on the back of it. If people want plastic tags, sell them just the number, and they can do it on their own, but I really like the fact that when I see a travel bug, it's instantly recognizable. I thought there already is a way to click over to the travel bug's page from the cache it is listed in (referring to an earlier post). Personally, I would make them about 20% larger, include instructions, leave them as metal. I'm ambivalent on selling just the numbers. I'm an avid DIY'er, but I like the commonality & uniformity of the current scheme. I do wish that every bug had its goal, even if it doesn't have one in particular, noted with the hitchhiker )plainly & easy to see). Maybe when a person buys a bug, he could state his goal so it could be printed on a second tag for an extra cost? But, overall, I like them the way they are. They could be stamped from metal in the shape of a bug, but would have to be a little larger to leave room for text. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Congrats. (& you're welcome) Remember me when I get to 1000... if you still can. But at the rate I'm going, I may actually do it... let's see, I'm 42 years old, and I've found 8 so far... umm, what was I taling about? [This message was edited by Mark 42 on August 13, 2003 at 09:25 AM.]

quote:Originally posted by Snoogans: quote:Originally posted by flir~girl (Team WYSIWYG):I'm game. still trying to figure out why he thought i'd be into this? I meant to email you when I noticed your avatar over a month ago. Love the pic ... Unfortunately, my eyes ain't what they used to be. Could someone post a larger version of the avatar so I can see it, please? Thanks. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

quote: In a couple of caches I have been, I have been able to find the cache by just watching/following the "destruction path" some earlier cache finder created. Not everyone does that. Some people are carefull to create minimum damage, and try to leave minimum/no trace. It sounds to me like maybe there was a need for a trail there. Just a minute, I'll be right there... I was looking for an abandoned cemetery last weekend, and at one point though I was on a trail of some sort... until I saw large circles of grass that had been trampled. After a minute I realized they were places where animals (probably deer) had laid down at night. There was a lot more vegetation trampled than a few people looking for a cache would cause... heck, they didn't even bother to minimize the damage by treading lightly! [This message was edited by Mark 42 on August 12, 2003 at 01:56 PM.]

quote:Originally posted by chubby forest monkey:...why do people seem so darned disappointed if they are not the first ones? So, who was the second man to walk on the moon? But me, I'm happy just to have achieved my first find! I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

How do you find out how many finds a person (or you yourself) has? In order to get 1000 finds... I don't think one could spare the time required to read the forums! I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

If you have a cache there, you may want to check on it after they finish. I just got an email from my company's PR dept.: Hi! August 23 is our next opportunity to join together to make the planet a better place to live and work! Please join us -- with your play clothes and gardening gloves -- to do some trail work in Lincoln Park in West Seattle. Show that Raptor Pride and make this project a huge success! I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

If she refused to fight it... "Just wanted it to go away"... got what she deserves. Too many people aren't willing to stand up for what is right. The more we allow our rights to be trampled, the easier it will become. BTW, email me (if I haven't already emailed you) or post info here on where in the Seattle area I might be able to see a boomerang competition, or even meet with some (what do you call youselves... 'ranggers?) of you folks to see this sport. My daughter has a cheap plastic toy she got with those tickets you can win at Chuck E Chesse's, and I'd love to take her to see them in action (I still have to take her to a park and try her boomerang). So, is the ammo box just to contain travel bugs gathered on a cross country vacation? Flying to New York & Driving back to Los Angeles, a person could gather a lot of travel bugs (don't drink the water, eh?) I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Just look the ranger right in the eye, and say "do YOU own this land?" Whne he says "No", just respond with "Then get the hell out of my way, because I DO!" (And, I pay your salary, on top of it). See the Missing lyrics from Woodie Guthrie's "This Land was Made for You & Me"

It's admittedly subtle, but I often have seen people "mention" feeling bad about going over vegetation... and (to me) there is an undercurrent of "so should you". It's not one of my harder buttons to press though, so I'll whle heartedly admit that I react stronger than most to subtle environmentalist hints. And I don't need any sort of stepladder or handhold to get on my soapbox... I'll jump right up there at a moments notice, sometimes w/o even realizing I've done it! Yeah, wind me up & watch me go... I don't even mind if some find it entertaining. I guess for me, just being able to make the attempt to get people to think about what they say (& the belief that prompts them to say it) is therapeutic somehow. We now return you to your regular programming... I do get concerned about violating private property. I really like the way Alabama approaches it... if there are no posted signs which prohibit a person from hiking, hunting, or otherwise trespassing, then the person is within the law while doing so. If you post signs around your property prohibitting activities, generally people honor those signs. Recently I did a cache on property that said "No trespassing"... but there are trails through it, and people hike & ride horse and bicyles there all the time. I suspect it is meant to apply to motor vehicles, or maybe the owner is trying to avoid liability if someone should trip over a tree root and get hurt. (I'm restraining myself... the soapbox is beckoning me again...) I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. [This message was edited by Mark 42 on August 12, 2003 at 12:30 PM.]

You surprised me! I figured I'd probably raise hackles with what I said, but I felt a need to say what I believe to be the truth. I didn't think there were a lot of people who would say they agree with me, if nothing else just because they don't want to get flamed or something like that (I'm having trouble explaining what I mean here). I saw a couple of other threads about "what to do when others are around". The way I see it is like this: I'm not ashamed, nor do I need to hide my activity. If someone sees me geocaching, and they sak, I'll just do my best to explain the game to them, and tell them where the website is in case they want to give it a try. I try to let them know that you can do it w/o a GPS, if you choose caches that have goos descriptions and hints to find the location with just a map & compass... and that a GPS (older technology one) can be had for around $50 on eBay. I try to stay out of direct view when I am opening the cache and signing the logbook, but I try not to look like I don't want to be seen. I just pick a nice comfortable flat spot, and if it happens to be behind a tree, where people on the trail can't see me, well... maybe that's just "coincidence?". I don't want people to see me find the cache, and hide it, because if they don't get to ask me about what I'm doing, they may come back later to investigate, and w/o someone to inform them it could lead to misunderstandings (like they might think I'm hiding something illegal). But most people are pretty decent, and if they know what's going on, and are on some level included, they will respect the gamesmanship of it, even if it isn't their cup of tea. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

I always wondered why they make me put the "Not Loaded" tag INSIDE the locked case I carry the gun in... See 18 USC 922(e) for federal law about "common carriers". "It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; except that ANY PASSENGER WHO OWNS OR LEGALLY POSSESSES A FIREARM OR AMMUNITION BEING TRANSPORTED ABOARD ANY COMMON OR CONTRACT CARRIER FOR MOVEMENT WITH THE PASSENGER IN INTERSTATE OR FOREIGN COMMERCE MAY DELIVER SAID FIREARM OR AMMUNITION INTO THE CUSTODY OF THE PILOT, CAPTAIN, CONDUCTOR OR OPERATOR OF SUCH COMMON OR CONTRACT CARRIER FOR THE DURATION OF THE TRIP WITHOUT VIOLATING ANY OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER. No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm." I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Actually, you have to check your guns in and notify them that they are in your luggage. The requirement is that they be in a locked container seperate from the ammo. Here are some links to actual info, not paranoid opinion. http://www.packing.org/news/article.jsp/2775/ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~gderb/airtravel.htm http://cartridgecollectors.org/shipping.htm I believe you can carry on up to 50 lbs of ammo, but you'd have to check on that with the air carrier (I read that was the procedure, but I think that was a while ago). [RANT] An ammo box is nothing but a box. The same people who think it is anything more are quite likely the ones who want to regulate guns. I can show those types two guns, one that has awesome firepower, but looks like a hunting rifle, and a .22 cal. single shot that is painted green, and they will swear the green one should be banned because it's a military weapon. Common sense says that an ammo can is not what a terrorist is going to use to transport something like a bomb. Common sense says an ammo can is just a box, like a tool box, a briefcase, or a cardboard box. But people react instead of thinking. Just like my opinion of environmentalism, people who are paranoid about anything remotely resembling military weapons bother me. I'm sick of having every facet of my life regulated by a bunch of clueles nutcases! [/RANT] Use your ammo box. Wash it out with dish soap and hot water, put some rubbing alchol in a spray bottle and spray then wipe it down. Shouldn't take very long. That'll keep the dogs from indicating on it. Legally you can carry a locked ammo box onto a plane, in your hands or in your luggage. You are required to open it and allow them to inspect it if they ask you to. They probably won't, since terrorists prefer something more innocent looking (like a hollowed out book). But, I carry a locked ammo box with my handguns in it and check it in at the ticket counter (they won't let you do it out at the kiosks... there is some forms to fill out). Just put it inside your suitcase, and don't sweat it. Take the lid off and put your underwear in it if you want to avoid hassles but still want to use the space it takes up. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. [This message was edited by Mark 42 on August 12, 2003 at 11:40 AM.]

quote:Originally posted by Eeyore and Shadow:Put the towel in the ammo can, paind DON'T PANIC on the side of the can and explain to them that a towel is the most versatile and useful thing a hitchiker can carry. ... You are one cool frood who really knows where his towel is. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

If it's private property, and the owner hasn't given permission, then I wouldn't go through their plants. If the owner gave permission, and the only way in is over plants, I would assume the owner saw it as an alternative to buying a goat to keep down the underbrush (BTW, if a couple of dozen of y'all would come walk around in the brush on my property... I'd grill up some burgers for you!) But, what worries me is getting seperated from my kids and having them fall into the wrong hands, or being unable to find them in the woods. We watch them pretty closely, but no matter how vigilant you are, they can still wander off while chasing a rabbit or squirrel (or, in my kids case, slugs... they are fascinated with them, and will fall behind if we aren't paying close attention). The other one is... getting all disoriented in the wilderness and dpending a night out there. Not a problem if I'm alone, but with the kids it presents a problem. I didn't think to mark a waypoint at the car last night... we got turned around right around dusk, which made me a bit tense. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Environemental activism is seldom very well thought out. We do less harm then the bunnies and the bambis and the yogis & boo-boos do. Most environmentalism is really poorly disguised anti human sentiment. We have the same right to be trapsing through the woods as all the rest of God's critters. I have seen too many people here climb on their environmentalist soapbox. Plants grow back. If the plants were in some way endangered, they wouldn't be so prolific as to be in our way. More trails means better access. I get sick of people who think every new trail is some sort of blight on the "environment". Trail have an aesthetic beauty of their own. I could take a picture of vegetation, and people would look at it and say "so what?". I could then cut a nice meandering trail, take a new photo, and have people look at it and say "what a lovely place". The presence of man in the wilderness does not necessarily diminish it. No one wants a barren landscape, but don't be ridiculous. I could bushwack with a fargin' weedeater, and by spring there'd be no sign of my passing. If I move a rock two feet, so what? It's not like that rock was in some sacred spot (then again, environmentalism can resemble religious fanaticism). Conservationism is where I stand. Stewardship over the wilderness, but not a total abscence. Tread lightly, not "Do not enter".

I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

I din't mean to be ungrateful, or dis you in any way... I do a lot of eBaying, and it's just one of my pet peeves. If eBay really wanted to curtail this stuff, they could. When it really becomes an issue is when you have to return something and the seller only refunds the "Purchase Price". I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Easiest way... Open in MS Photoedit. Click "Image" - "Resize" Save As (jpeg). I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

$10.99 isn't a bad price, but I have problems with people who hide the price in shipping & handling to get around paying the proper fees eBay charges (based on final auction sale price). You can bet it will come in a padded envelope with about $0.75 shipping stamped on it. $0.85 for envelope, $0.75 postage, 5 minutes to seal & send is not $6.00 in my book. Ethical dilemma when it could save me money to buy it under those conditions. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

I would expect that the rule is more like a guideline... if there is a good reason to place one near another one (like the terrain is different, and both are very interesting destinations, and people can't get from one directly to the other, and they won't mistake one for the other (e.g. due to poor GPS reception), and both of them are different in character... then they could make an exception. In some cases, .1 mile would be too close. In some places, it only makes sense to have one or two in an area because if you've seen one, the others are no different. At least that's my impression thus far, as a fairly new GeoCacher. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Whether I stay on trail or go into the dense jungle/forest/bushes depends a lot on who is with me. When I'm with my Wife & Kids, I try to stay on trail. If I do bushwhack with them around, I'll go fine the waypoint, and then follow the trail back out to them & lead them in on the trail. Sometimes it's easiest to find the trail to the cache by bushwhacking straight to it and taking the trail out. But if I can stay on trail and still feel like I'm making progress, that's my first choice. I do things very differently when I'm by myself... I can cover a lot of wrong trails by jogging, but when the family is along the pace is painfully slow. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

A lot of women who have given birth before, after completing a Marathon say it is much more arduous to run the marathon. Yet, some people (not me) run several marathons each year. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1891369113/002-4126089-3652053 I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

If people are going to cheat, why would they even bother to join as premium members? It wouldn't be hard to figure out who isn't family, but if their integrity is only worth $30, they probably won't stick with this hobby long anyways, since it is somewhat honor based. Example: People working as a team could split up, find a bunch of caches, sign everyone in the group into each logbook, and claim 50 caches in 24 hours. Or, they could share one ID, and go around pretending to be a singlular person. For now, I will probably sign up for premium, and leave my wife's account as ordinary, or vice versa. I'm not interested in any of the benefits, but feel it'd be justifiable to pay in order to support the organization's efforts and expenses to run things. But if it were only a few dollars more for a joint membership, I might sign us both up. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

quote:Originally posted by Mark 42: quote:Originally posted by Renegade Knight: quote:Originally posted by Tsegi Mike and That is sooo not environmentally friendly. I don't see the envrionmental issue here. Unless you use lead bullets... but up there it really wouldn't matter even if you used lead... it's not like millions of shooters are gonna go there, so the lead you would add is just a drop in the bucket compared to the natural occurrence of lead. But stil, just to keep the "environmentalists" off your back, you better use steel shot instead of bullets. _ I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. _ I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.