CheekyBrit

My guess is they film spinning the wheel enough times each month to get a new challenge they haven't had yet, so a small degree of random that excludes duplicates.

Different states will have regional guidelines they follow. I know in parts of Minnesota the distance has to be at least 20 miles, not just 1 mile.

It's so heart warming that this is legit.

That'd be pretty cool.

From what I can gather, GC24KMN is the oldest, being published on January 5th 2013. Nothing compared to this one from 2002. I was using https://www.geocaching.com/plan/lists/BMGCGE?sort=placeddate&sortOrder=asc&skip=0&take=500

From what I gathered in a quick search, the old counties are: Litchfield, Hartford, Tolland, Windham, Fairfield, New Haven, Middlesex, and New London. The new 'regional councils of governments' are: Northwest Hills, Capitol Region, Northeastern, Western, Naugatuck Valley, Metropolitan, South Central, Lower CT River Valley, and Southeastern https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/06/06/2022-12063/change-to-county-equivalents-in-the-state-of-connecticut

As far as the LOCATIONS of letterbox. I am glad that there is no limitation on the size. I have a bucket hanging my a rope and pulley in a tree in our front yard and it is size large - no problems. But I also have a letterbox nestled in a small rocky nook in this cliff face chamber next to this 'face in the mountain'. It is only an altoid tin but there is enough toom for the stamp and a decent size scroll of paper. If there was a rule that only large or regular size caches could be letterboxes, this face of the mountain letterbox couldn't exist (it'd have to be a traditional or some other type). We have a few micro sized letterboxes in town. A big bison tube with a letter size piece of paper folded and wrapped around a small stamp. Enough space for stamping. They are along hiking trails in parts where there isn't really room to hide anything else larger feasibly.

There are some really cool challenges that are unpublishable. You can always have challenges posted outside of challenge cache pages. We're talking things like local geocache pages, or a forum thread here. Quite a few challenges I've tried to build like Venn5, Bigger better, and 12 days of Christmas were unpublishable since they were not 'reasonably attainable' or were 'bookkeeping exercises'. Cache advance does something like this with a geo-challenge of the month. sometimes it is something like, 'find a geocache near a boat' that would never be publishable as an official challenge page.

I come from a place of ignorance and uneducatedness (is that a word?). I don't mind one way or the other, but what is the downside to using the term 'redux'. Is there like a deeper meaning I don't know or is it just a dumb sounding term?

It was all geocaches within the app but the answer @Max and 99 gave works perfectly. From within the waypoints tab text list, I select the posted coordinates and it shows everything. I can also select other waypoints from within the map to see which is which and it all still displays. What I was doing wrong was from the waypoints tab text list, selecting custom waypoints I had added, then it only shows that one and the posted coords. Nice fix @Max and 99!

There was a brilliant feature in the geocaching app (Android user here) that I took for granted. Like many geocaching related apps you can add your own custom waypoints within each separate cache page. The cool feature was that when you selected a waypoint so you could see it on the map, ALL OTHER non-hidden waypoints for that geocache would display as well. This is nice for a virtual cache with 10+ stages scattered around, it allows you to plot a course that is efficient and doesn't backtrack too much. I use this for a bunch of different situations and now something has changed so you can only see one waypoint at a time, the posted coordinates, and your current position. All other waypoints are hidden from view on the map. Is anyone else facing this, and is there a way to correct it back to showing all waypoints?

Multi caches by definition should have two or more locations (This quote is from ' https://www.geocaching.com/about/cache_types.aspx ': These geocaches involve two or more locations, with the final location being a physical container with a logbook inside. There are many variations, but typically once you’re at the first stage, you will receive a clue to the whereabouts of the second stage. The second stage will have a clue for the third, and so on. I have seen some multi caches where they had a single location (no virtual waypoints) and the container was a 7 day pill organizer like this: To me this is one location and wouldn't count. But, someone asked me if you could do this and regard each box as every so slightly a different location by mere millimeters. Bit of a stretch. I would just give the answer, "NO", but I have found a few Multis that were set up exactly like this. For clarification, there would be no virtual stage elsewhere and no other physical container beyond this one. I know there is no minimum distance between stages but I'd imagine you'd be expected to at least have variance in the coordinates, like N 44° 42.902 W 093° 17.728 and N 44° 42.902 W 093° 17.727. What do you think?

We have had people ask about multiple cartridges for one Wherigo ( https://forums.geocaching.com/GC/index.php?/topic/329720-multiple-cartridge-cache/ ) but could you have multiple whereigos for one cartridge? I'm guessing so. At least there are instances of this already out there like GC4TXF4, GC4TXFP, GC4TXHR, and GC4TXHB that run off one cartridge - a game that you can keep playing with increasing difficulty, rewarding you a set of final coordinates for each level you beat. That was built back in 2013 and it still runs very well. Is there any issue with something similar being built today?

The original question was about multi caches with many stages "Is [32] the longest or are there others lurking out there?" These often include, but not always, long distances. On those short distance, many stage multis there are different layouts. For odd layouts, would you include the total stage count, or just the shortest required string of stages? The typical layout is a set sequence in order, like sequential adventure labs; one example would be A tour of Butcherandswimmer Country in Minneapolis (GC5MT3T), or Pocatello Underground in Idaho (GC8R4AQ). Others can be done in any order, like the already mentioned bridges and arches of Central Park in New York (GC17MX1), or the Beaver City Tour in Utah (GCG57W). Every now and then you find some other layout. Zeezrom's choose your own adventure (GC9KH87) is a choose your own adventure format, forming a network. 1st stage leads to either 2 or 3. 2 leads to 4 or 5, 3 leads to 6 or 7. 4, 5, 6, & 7 lead to the final at 8. There is a bonus on that one for those who find the code word at all 8 stages. I haven't found any, but I could imagine an electives format where you pick any 2 from these 6... I'm hoping to build a more elaborate short distance (within a city block) many stage multi with non sequential layout monstrous format. Challenge is location scouting and designing it to actually be fun, and not just confusing is tough. Would any of you many stage multi lovers have any interest in something like this?

How many geocaches can fit on earth? I figured some of you might have this thought experiment running through your mind too. Math tells us hexagonal packing of circles is how to cram the most in. Massive oversimplification but in a 1 mile square area 115 geocaches can fit inside (the overlap from this square to others and underlap from other squares to this cancel out evenly thankfully so this will tessellate nicely. This has each waypoint 528' (1/10th mile or 161 meters) from each of 6 other waypoints. There will be some irregularities at the non rectangular edges like wonky coastlines but this works for a good average. Also, existing geocaches are not packed anywhere near as tightly as we would need for maximum packing around them, but say we shifted all existing geocaches for this daft thought experiment. The city I live in, Pocatello, is 32.38 Miles2 and could fit 3723 caches. The county I live in, Bannock county, is 1147 Miles2 and could fit 131,905 caches The State I live in, Idaho, is 83,642 Miles2 and could fit 9,618,830 caches The USA is 3,797,000 Miles2 and could fit 436,655,000 caches The land area of Earth is 196,900,000 Miles2 and could fit 22,643,500,000 caches. THAT is max geocache saturation (not counting events, virtuals, webcams, and earth caches - that has no upper bound) Bonus question So how many can a person find? Could someone find all of them in a lifetime? Nearly endless events could be crammed into that same space, requiring that they are separated by 2 hours or 20 miles. Then geocaches can be archived after 90 days (to avoid them being considered 'temporary' and against the rules). I somewhat doubt anyone is going to be able to find 22.6 billion caches within 90 days so not enough geocaches really isn't a limiting factor. For fun, let's even ignore travel limitations. Take the most geocaches found in a day - 8694 by Lærry. That is about 6 geocaches a minute!?!?! Possible with pre-signed challenges, but hardly sustainable lifelong. There's also little time for bathing, sleeping, eating, or any other necessities there. But humor me. The longest human lifespan in recent recorded history is Jeanne Calment at a whopping 122 years, 164 days. That's a whopping 44724 days including the 30 leap years from 1875-1997. Assume you were born fully able to geocache and ran non stop your whole 122 odd years, you'd need to do 506,294 caches a day, or about 6 a second to get every geocache on the planet at max saturation. At the best rate we've seen, the Lærry rate of 8694 a day, you could do 388,830,456 geocaches. But wait, there was that chap in the bible, Methuselah, the crowning prince of age outliers at 969 years old. He lived for about 353927 days. Live a life full to the brim of geocaching as long as Methuselah at the non stop pace of Lærry and you could do 3,077,041,338. Wimpy attempt, that's only 13.6% of planetary cache saturation. To date mondou2 has found 236,921 geocaches, which is absolutely astounding, but only 0.007% of the Lærry Methuselah potential. This may sound completely daft, and you'd be right in thinking that. But with that in mind, I met an 8 year old geocacher who has found a geocache every day of their entire life since birth thanks to the help of their eager parents. We have a contender!

YES! Every reviewer I've worked with have been very understanding on the back and forth, allowing time to finish building a geocache and 'reserving' the spot. My issue would be the housing market of Minneapolis understanding and asking, "do you still need this house?" while I'm waiting for the reviewer to let us know if those coordinates are blocked. Most of the time it is impressively within 24 hours but reviewers have a lot on their plate and some times it does take the 7 days it mentions on geocaching.com.

In the next 3-8 years we're moving to a new city for the in-laws and we have our criteria for the home. Biggest of all, is I need to be able to build a geocache on the front lawn, so it cannot be geo-blocked. Hopefully it's gonna be a big one with a K2 British phone box mini free library and a dedicated phone line to call for the clue; this really has to be on my property. If we can't hide a geocache on our property, it's a deal breaker. SO, with literally thousands of puzzle caches in the destination it is hard to know if a spot is available. I see 2 main options: 1) When we pick the house that is clear of known waypoints, build a cache page and submit it with a note "it isn't ready for full on publishing", so we can see if that spot is available. Then hope it is fast enough for us to still buy the house before it's gone. Option 1B) Get friendly with a reviewer and message them the coordinates for a real-time yes or no without building a cache page. 2) Buy any house and wait for existing waypoints to archive. This is super risky and we might never get un-geoblocked. OPTION 2B) This could be sped up by speaking with/bribing cache owners to move or archive their existing waypoints. I don't like this one since it is mean, disrespectful to existing cache owners, and encourages an attitude toward geocaching I don't want to see in the world, vying for territory like squabbling countries. 3) Work with a reviewer directly, maybe even seeing the mythological map showing all waypoints (unlabelled without GC codes to avoid cheating hard puzzles). I don't think this is feasible but it would be so cool. Is there some other option I'm missing? Also, am I a weirdo on my own for thinking like this? I'm a weirdo for sure, no question, but does anyone else have this thought process when considering moving? BTW, I'm focusing on the geo-blocking side of things, not the maintenance for old caches part. If that's what you came for, may I recommend this thread:

The grand finale I have in mind is for a series of caches following the plot of star Wars episode IX, rise of skywalker. It's not the best, but the dagger line up with deathstar wreckage to find wayfinder scene is so perfect for a geocache. The end of the film is destroying a navigation tower coordinating an insanely huge fleet of planet destroying ships. The final stage I have on this series of caches is to be a 5/5 large size Wherigo up the top of a tall, unused weather vane tower, thanks to befriending the owner. The cartridge will be a bit of a toughie and the hints through the trek up to that point will help, but not give the final coordinates. So it would be both a physical and a mental struggle, with a bit of vertigo thrown in there. That set up would be super cool too. I do want to make sure it is within the guidelines though.

Bonus caches are awesome. https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=127&pgid=927 2.7 in the rules goes over the specifics, but essentially you "HAVE to find clues in other caches" giving required bonus information to find a bonus cache. An important stipulation is no one cache can give required information for more than one bonus cache - so no chaining one to a bonus to another bonus, AND no splitting one cache to several bonuses. But what about non required information, like a hint. A kid in my neighborhood wants to do a calculus themed puzzle cache. That sounds brutal and like it would get very little traffic but I got thinking, what if some other caches nearby gave hints, partial answers, or even the full on coordinates? As long as the puzzle cache that the hints go toward can be done on its own without the hints, I understand that wouldn't make it a bonus cache. This opens up some avenues for brainstorming. You could have a thematic series following a story where each piece gives you an extra hint toward the big bad final cache that is absolutely solvable on its own, and is not a bonus cache, but is made easier by doing the other geocaches along the way.

The geocaching app is silent when you make a find (which I recon is a good decision to not force everyone to hear a repetitive sound). But what if you yourself want to celebrate each time you make a find, or a milestone find? Lately I've been listening to This Jingle I found but cannot figure the source for each time I make a find. (link to audio file on my google drive) For android users you can turn any audio file into a 1x1 widget on your home-screen. I'm sure there's an equivalent on Apple. That way it's just one click on the phone and convenient. WHAT tune would you like to listen to each time you make a find? I'm guessing something short. I'm excited to see what everyone thinks of. Here's a few I thought of: 'To be continued' (from roundabout by Yes, popularized by Jojo) Zelda found item sound Sonic coin Mario 1-up Mario power-up Victory sound from Megaman Mario kart start of race jingle 'Bust a move' (originally from found a child by Ballin Jack) Magnum P.I. snippet from intro A-Team theme snippet Riff from Reelin in the years by Steely Dan Riff from la grange by ZZ top Riff from eye of the tiger by survivor Riff from fire by Kasabian Riff from fortunate son by Creedence Clearwater Revival Riff from Oye Como Va by Santana Riff from shining star by Earth Wind Fire Opening riff from 'work to do' by Average white band

I tried checking out GCBCE and I got nothing. A regular size traditional called 'water walker' on an island in Maine accessible at low tide. Red herring. I don't think BCE is a GC code reference. Other dead ends found on acronymfinder.com include: 'Before Common Era' Banca Centrale Europea Biotechnology Center of Excellence Base construction Engineering Base Civil Engineer Bus Control Element Buffer Control Element Battlefield Control Element Battlefield Coordination Element Board for Court Education Bureau de Cooperation Educative Base Commercial Equipment Base-level commercial Equipment

Before posting a new thread I look around for existing threads that resemble the topic. Your response leads me to think it is better to make a unique thread every time instead of adding to an existing one around the topic. I am fairly new to forums in general. Did the sound come through though?

You can always choose to make your own celebration when you hit a milestone. Some people have a ceremonial event or cache hidden at milestones. I say, celebrate the journey, not just the destination. I'm now playing a song snippet upon finding each cache. I flip flop between, "roundabout" by yes, "Found a child" by Ballin jack, and some 6 second snippet I don't recognize, but it is a notification sound on zedge listed as fanfare with a 'jazz' label. Android users can have an audio file added to their homescreen as a widget for easy access. I'm sure Apple has a similar option. What song or sound would you do each find? The Zelda find sound? Mario coin sound? 'Celebration' by Kool & the gang?

So true. Someone wanting to do such a long distance multi that isn't there often for work would probably need a friend that lives by the distant stage and agrees to manage the other caches. The friend's username would need to be sent in with the cache submission, and you'd probably want to list the cache author as both of you.

Is there any ruling that denies a multi cache crossing borders? Like could you have one start in Bangladesh and finish in Uraguay?