Mermaid.Man

Hi there. You might want to try posting on Facebook rather than here. This forum group only gets a couple of posts each year. There is certainly a geocaching New Zealand group, and I'm pretty sure that there is a Bay of Plenty group. Alternatively you could try posting a "write note" log on your cache page seeking someone to adopt your cache. I'm in Welly myself so I can't help you I'm afraid. Or else just archive your cache of course. It's not as if there's a shortage of them.

I also have an extra 10 available FPs. I have never done an adventure lab using this account though, so that's not the reason.

I treat an AL as zero caches, so I use a separate account when I play them. Works for me.

To be fair, Groundspeak have made it very clear that they aren't geocaches. There are two separate games - one called geocaching and one called adventure labs. The only thing that makes no sense is the +5.

As others have mentioned, there is a well established and mostly satisfactory procedure to follow if you come across a cache which you feel requires attention from its owner. There is no need to involve HQ or to come onto the forums with misleading stories. It is a small community up there and I wonder if there is more to this than you are letting on? Also I am astonished that a reviewer in Virginia would post a NA log on a cache on the other side of the world on the say-so of a player with 7 finds to their name. Perhaps now I really have seen it all.

Er no they don't. What they say is "The public are free to walk and bike the forest roads and tracks provided they respect forest operations, restrictions and stay away from active worksites." Which is completely true.

In NZ there really is no need to obtain permission from your local council to place a cache on public land. Nobody else does.

My feelings about them are similar. They are alright, but they aren't geocaches in my book. When I do want to do one for the bonus cache, I just use a different account that I created for the purpose. Simple. But each to their own.

Well I can see all of the text. Looking at the different screen shots, it looks as if the issue may be related to font sizes (or perhaps screen sizes).

FWIW hides on utility boxes are prohibited in New Zealand for the last few years. I don't know if other countries have the same rule.

I guess that what you're asking is whether it's OK to claim a find on a cache that you've never visited, on the basis that some people that are your friends found it? Of course it isn't. You know that I'm sure.

Well yes I agree, that's the important question. Why do you get a +5 or a +10? HQ have made it clear in their postings that they consider the two games to be separate and so I guess that they do this to raise awareness and enthusiasm amongst geocachers to play this new game? I expect that there would be less interest in adventure labs if this wasn't the case.

It's because they are not geocaches. It's a separate game. Similarly, you do not see geocaches on the adventure lab app.

Every other week seems excessive. I like to check my caches every 6 months and I'll post an owner maintenance log when I do.

Unfortunately I don't believe that the changes are being made to accommodate this subset of cachers.

I've not seen this mentioned yet and so I'll add it to the list. On the old search it was possible to click on the number of favourite points and be shown the %FP figure. I liked that feature very much and found it very useful.

In our local FB group players with unpublished virtual caches are reporting that they are receiving multiple messages from people around the world asking to adopt them. How would somebody know who has an unpublished virtual? Would a reviewer have access to this information for instance?

I'm sorry, but this time Groundspeak you have well and truly "jumped the shark".

Does shift + enter produce the desired result?

So? You must have missed my earlier point. I was only saying that I felt that a field puzzle trad would be an acceptable option in these very specific circumstances. I'm sure that we've all found multis such as you describe. I have one myself.

Well yes FMZ I'd certainly call yours a multi, the waypoints are spread out over a 20km area and it would be ridiculous to call it a trad. With the OP's cache as originally proposed, the waypoints are all a very short distance from the final and are all in the same small park. Yours looks great though and funnily enough I lived pretty close to waypoint 10 for a number of years.

Since the cache is at the posted coordinates I would argue that it's a traditional cache with a field puzzle attribute. The information to unlock the cache is all in the immediate vicinity by the sound of it. An unusual traditional cache to be sure, but that's a good thing in my book. I'm sure I've never seen a multi with the cache at the posted coordinates, but of course that's just my experience and it might be commonplace elsewhere.

I've done the same thing, it solves the problem nicely.

Just refresh the cache page on your app. On the app that I use there is a refresh button that does this. I'm guessing that with the official app you can refresh by pulling down on your screen. And sorry but I'm not allowed to discuss the app that I use.

No, but often it would help that an infinite number of guesses are permitted.