Team Nogless

We are pretty experienced cachers, and would like to have some contacts for the tuff ones. We are looking to exchange phone numbers with some fellow cachers who would be willing to give and receive hints while at the cache site. mostly the Rochester, NY area. Thanks, Team Bridgebuilder dzgametec@aol.com

Thanks - I'll try that

We are pretty experienced cachers, and would like to have some contacts for the tuff ones. We are looking to exchange phone numbers with some fellow cachers who would be willing to give and receive hints while at the cache site. mostly the Rochester, NY area. Thanks, Team Bridgebuilder dzgametec@aol.com

Well it looks like this summer is going to be a fun one! Too many travelbugs... LOL ok. I have a feeling it won't take long for these travel bugs to wander into peoples private collections. I think it's a great idea overall, but I'm feeling a bit sorry for Jeremy for taking all this abuse Both my brother-in-law and sister work as Jeep Jamboree trail guides every year, and they are really excited about this. Maybe now I can get them into geocaching!

Not so fast. Are they on DEC administered land? Did they, or GC.COM ask you to remove them? If the answer is no to any of the above, I don't see why you should remove them. They were placed in good faith before there was a no geocache policy. New York Admin archived Tug Hill # 3 Tin man on the hill. (Traditional Cache) at 4/28/2004 Log Date: 4/28/2004 I'm sorry, this cache appears to be located in a State Reforestation Area. The NY State DEC has recently stated that geocaches are forbidden in NY State on DEC managed properties without a Temporary Revocable Permit. Unless you have verifiable permission and a permit from the head park ranger or the DEC regional office, this cache must be removed as soon as possible and I'm archiving the cache. Please don't hesitate to respond with an explanation if you feel this cache has been misjudged or after you've received permission. Thanks, New York Admin Geocaching.com

"Wow," that's probably the least useful reply yet. I'd let it go, but after your criticism of the earlier posts, I'll try to constructively criticize yours: 1. Map datum. If he is consistently getting within 20 - 30 feet of a cache, I'd say he is using the correct datum. An incorrect datum would likely cause an error in the hundreds of feet. 2. Read manual - tell GPS what area of world you are in. This is helpful when using a gpsr for the first time or in a new geographical area to help it lock on quicker. If he has already got satellite lock indicating 20 - 30 foot accuracy, this would not be helpful or necessary. 3. WAAS. Not using WAAS is not going to throw your accuracy off by an additional 20 - 30 feet. At best, a good WAAS signal might improve your accuracy by 5 - 10 feet. And as far as picking up at least one WAAS satellite, I think picking up one is most you could hope for. Anyone ever get 2 WAAS signals at the same time? Well - not ment to criticize anyone, but here it is from Magellen: 1) The reason for initialization is to speed up the process for computing the first position fix when the SporTrak has no last position computed in memory (i.e.,when the SporTrak is brand new or memory has been cleared).This gives the SporTrak an approximate indication of where it is located so it can use its satellite almanac (stored in permanent memory)to estimate what satellites are overhead and which ones it should be looking for. 2) Position coordinates on your receiver do not match the location on your map. 1.Make sure that your receiver is set up to use the same datum as your map. The map datum is generally shown in the map legend.See Setup - Changing the Map Datum under Reference for instructions on selecting the map datum in your receiver. 2.Check your LAT/LON format.Make sure that the format selected in COORDINATE SYSTEM (DEG/MIN/SEC or DEG/MIN.MM)is in the same format as the map you are using. 3) How accurate will my GPS receiver be with WAAS?The FAA reports that expected accuracy can be improved to around 7 meters vertically and horizon- tally.Our own testing suggests that Magellan GPS receivers will typically experience accuracy improvements to around 3 meters.You can expect to see this level of accuracy for 95%of the time that you are receiving WAAS signals. So - like I said.... check your map datum, check for WAAS signal, and read the book. Or - don't listen to me because i'm just a Mr. Know-it-all anyway.

I can see the headlines now: MAN DROWNS TRYING TO FIND HIDDEN TREASURE. DOG DROWNS TRYING TO FOLLOW OWNER.

Wow all these replys and not an ounce of useful information. Try this: Make sure your on the right datum. Should be WGS84. If not you'll be off by 20-30 feet. You can find the settings in the manual. Next - READ the manual. The initail setup explains how to tell the GPS what area of the world it is in. Lastly, make sure you have WAAS enabled, and you are picking up at least one WAAS sattelite. If you don't pick up at least one WAAS sattelite, you will be off by 20-30 feet.

I must say this is a big crock of $#%@. Screw NYS and their BS policies. They allow 4 wheelers on the land, and they won't allow geocaching? Yea because someone might fall over and get stabbed by their walking stick. One more way they are fleecing America. Now I will have to remove 2 geocaches that have been in place for over a year.