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  1. Is there something I can tell him to do so he can see the other forums?

    The forums you mentioned are available to Premium Members only.

    Not the website forum, you just have to be logged in to the forums to see that one.

     

    :D

  2. Good luck in your quest, I agree with you completly.

    Completely. :D :D :D

     

    People need to be responsible. Obey park hours (even if the cache has 24/7 attribute), don't trample the flowers, etc.

     

    True Story: Geocaching has nearly been banned in areas because of selfish cachers not following the rules or doing what they want rather than what they should be doing. In that situation, it would have taken less time for the gurk(s) to ask permission like they were supposed to rather than hide caches and lie about it. The acts of a few do effect the rest of us locally. With the right situation it would reach farther than that.

  3. I had a log of mine for an earthcache deleted. I visited the site, found the answers to the questions, but never thought about taking the picture. I emailed the answers and thought all was ok, until the log was deleted. I emailed the cache owner asking why the log was deleted. He told me I didn't send the picture. He was right. I failed to comply with the cache's guidelines, even though I did physically visit the cache. I don't have a problem with cache owners expecting all finders to follow the requirements for logging the find.

     

    The next time I found an earthcache, I carefully read the requirements, answered the questions, and took a picture. :D

    You'll find that you end up having a lot more fun with an attitude like that :D

  4. This is a game/hobby that people do for their enjoyment. You have reminded the finder about the rules and deleted his log once. The finder chose to relog. To carry on with the dispute would lose sight of the enjoyment aspect of it.

     

    In fact, if I had an earthcache and somebody chose to log the find with a picture but without the answers I would leave it at that.

     

    I find deleting logs very aggressive and to be avoided. It just takes the fun out of it.

    I find continually logging a "found it" on a cache without completing the requirements to be aggressive and taking the fun out of it for the owner of that cache! Since there is no logbook to sign on the earthcache, the requirements must be met otherwise it's not a find. It's the responsibility of the cache owner to delete bogus finds, whether someone didn't sign the logbook or didn't complete the requirements to log the cache.

  5. 2) Why should they? You created a cache to be visited, his picture proves he visited it, mission accomplished! There's no action for them to take.

     

    My guess is that he didn't read the page thoroughly, visited the site, took a picture and moved on.

     

    Now he can prove he was there with the picture, but he can't pass your exam because he didn't write that stuff down.

     

    If your mission was to introduce him to an interesting place, you did so.

     

    If his mission was to see that interesting place, he did so.

     

    What do the additional logging requirements add to that?

     

    Let the man log his visit.

    You're describing a decent scenario for a virtual cache, but this is an earthcache, which has an educational component in it (which is a requirement for it to be listed as an earthcache). If you're just driving down the road and snap a picture, sure it's probably a visit to a virtual cache, but as an earthcache it falls short of a find, so the log deserves to be deleted.

  6. In short, what you miss is that the concept virtual cache is not well-defined (without making reference to some sort of guidelines). I had numerous discussions with geocachers in my country who argued that virtual caches are stupid because one does not need to leave one's home (I need to mention that I like *real* virtual caches if they are well done and own one myself). This experience taught me that quite a lot of cachers do not know what virtual caches at gc.com are about (the probability that a cacher belongs to that group is somehow indirectly proportional to the length of the period the person is already active in geocaching).

    If the virtual caches are stupid because you don't have to leave your home to log them, what does that make the act of logging them? The point of geocaching is to get you out of your home! Is it really geocaching if you sat in your chair and logged a bunch of locations you never visited?

     

    Nein.

    Doesn't that depend on what your game is?

    No.

     

    If they're playing their version of geocaching from logcacheswithoutgettingoutofyourchair.com that's one thing, but if they're using geocaching.com for these listings, they should go by the rules on the website, not ones they made up to further inflate a statistic.

     

    From the main page: "Geocaching - The Official Global GPS Cache Hunt Site" (emphasis added by me).

     

    How is what they are doing considered geocaching when the GPS isn't even turned on to "find" the caches*?

     

    :(

     

    *the folks that actually find caches without using GPS aren't lumped in with this statement. Some restrictions apply. See store for details.

  7. Is the "feel" of the cache changing?

     

    Is it a small container at the roots of a tree but now going to a large, camo'd container suspended by a rope of some sort a few feet away?

     

    If you're just replacing a container (even changing in size), I'd probably keep it the same. Anything changing the feel of the cache itself I'd probably go with a new one, but I'd need more info on what you're thinking before giving a better answer. :laughing:

  8. I would not consider that buried. If I need a shovel to remove it. That for me is buried.
    Not in my opinion. I feel it would only be buried if it's completely surround with the same material that it's placed in (dirt, mulch, straw, etc).

    If you use a shovel to hide it, that's buried (according to the site guidelines, and regardless of what your definition is). Read the guidelines carefully before you make up your own rules.

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