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I didn't realise that one could do this i.e. have 2 mapsets on the unit, one on each profile. I'm off to play - thanks. Gosh Martin you are helpful. All you need to do is ensure is that each mapset is individually named (if you are using multiple mapsets), e.g. BICR-UKOSM.img for the British Isles+Contours, Routable mapset OS50-UKOSM.img for the OS 1:50K look and feel mapset I do this with my own Oregon as I travel quite a bit outside the UK, and just switch profiles when I get to my destination. I have maps for the Middle East, Denmark, UK and most of the rest of Europe too. Same with enabling contours in one profile and disabling them in another, except that all you do is disable the UK Contours mapset in one of the profiles. The OSM maps I compile contain two mapsets, ones is the contours the other is the OSM map. Hope this helps? Regards, Martin

This is due to the fact that the contours have a higher redraw level than the map, I could possibly reverse this but then the contours would probably disappear. If you are not using the maps for caching/hiking you could just turn off the contours and the problem is solved. Or as mentioned previously, set up two profiles, one with the contours enabled and the other with them disabled. Simples! Not ideal I know, but I know of no other simple way to easily resolve this. If anyone does, then please feel free to educate me. Regards, Martin

I hate to ask this, but do you have the latest firmware installed? Regards, Martin

I've PMed you the link to the OSM Routable British-Isles mapset (this uses the new compiler and splitter). Feedback is most welcome. Seems to work fine for me. Regards, Martin

You could always use both the standard OSM routable British-Isles mapset and the OS1:50K look and feel mapset and switch between them? This assumes that you have an Oregon, Montana, Dakota, GPSMap62, Etrex 20/30 or one of the other newer Garmins that allow multiple mapsets and that has the Profiles feature. I do this a lot with different mapsets on my own Oregon 200. I'll look into it, but editing and creating TYP (Style files) is a bit of a black art. I've PMed you the link to the OSM Routable British-Isles mapset (this uses the new compiler and splitter). Feedback is most welcome. Seems to work fine for me. Regards, Martin

Another update, just checked and confirmed that the routing problem appears to be due to the OS 1:50K Look and Feel TYP file and NOT the new version of the splitter/compiler I was using. It seems that to make the footpath/bridleways more like the real OS 1:50K ones, it changes the values of them to something that the routing engine thinks should be treated as a road! The good news is that this means that new OSM maps (that don't use the OS 1:50K Look and Feel) should be fine and the routing should be significantly better than the current maps which use an older version of the splitter and compiler. However, this means that I will ONLY offer the OS 1:50K Look and Feel mapset as an NON-routable option. I also plan to adjust the size of the POI icons in the OS 1:50K Look and Feel mapset to make them smaller and to try and reduce the apparent clutter. This does NOT affect the normal OSM mapsets I compile and add contours to, only the new OS 1:50K Look and Feel mapset. None of these changes are going to happen for 2-3 weeks at least, as I will be away on business, so no further new maps until the 20th of January. If anyone wants to test out a British-Isles mapset compiled with the latest splitter/compiler that uses the improved routing features, then please let me know. This will be a mapset using the standard OSM look and feel (with contours). Regards, Martin

Hehe, don't worry I have no plans to do that.... Regards, Martin

That's why they are marked as Experimental It seems that routing may not work properly, so be warned. This mapset is currently not recommended for use on Garmin Nuvii's. Use my normal OSM routable maps instead. I may replace the NON-Routable British-Isles mapset with the OS50 ones; as that would offer those that want non-routable OS 1:50K style maps a good alternative to the normal OSM style ones. Regards, Martin

MapSource and BaseCamp version using the OS 1:50K look and feel now available for both Mac and PC. Enjoy! Regards, Marin

Just finished testing a MapSource/BaseCamp version and now uploading it, should be there before 7PM. Regards, Martin

As on the page on my site: Unzipped Size = 473 MB (496,656,384 bytes) Regards, Martin

Quick update: I have just added a new experimental mapset for the British-Isles which has contours, is routable and has OS 1:50K (Landranger) look and feel. It also uses the latest version of mkgmap and splitter, so the routing may be better too. All feedback is most welcome and encouraged. Regards, Martin

That was quick and spot on! DING!

Thanks, in that case, here's my question (and it has nothing to do with bread products []) Where would you use a Prusik and why?

who's the DING for? Myself or Mellers as we appear to have posted our answers at the same time? Regards, Martin

Alan Michael Sugar Trading Regards, Martin

For all those interested: Another week and another set of updates...and I would like to wish all of you a very happy new year! Over the weekend I have compiled the latest GB/British Isles/Ireland map tiles with contours into new maps for Garmin GPSrs. The British Isles mapsets I compile include the following areas (this has now replaced the UK mapset): England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The GB mapset I compile includes the following areas: England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands The Ireland mapset I compile include the following areas: Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The full GB/British Isles/Ireland mapsets come with contour data [contour data is from the Scottish Mountaineering Club] and are now routable. The updated ones are prefixed with 111230 [the old ones are prefixed with 111223] and should be available on the following link as of now. These new ones include all changes made to the OSM mapping data up to the 30th December 2011. If you want to grab them then you can find them here: http://talkytoaster.info As these are new, please report any problems directly to me, via my profile on Geocaching.com or via my Gmail account [talkytoasteruk@gmail.com]. This update not only includes newer routable versions with contours for GB/British Isles/Ireland, but also routable versions without contour data. The UK mapset has now been replaced by a British Isles one (it covers the same area). More details about the routing features can be found in the FAQ on my site. I have versions of the GB/British Isles & Ireland mapsets which are compatible with MapSource/BaseCamp (PC), and have also been tested in MapSource/BaseCamp before release. Versions for Mac OSX (RoadTrip/BaseCamp) are also available. Details and the maps can be found here: http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm This should allow those that have Garmin GPSrs with limited memory to select small areas to upload to these devices complete with contour data. If anyone wants similar maps (with or without contours) for other parts of Europe or elsewhere, then please feel free to contact me to discuss your needs. CAVEAT: No mapping solution is perfect. From OpenStreetMap:- "By the very nature of the wiki-style process there is no guarantee of accuracy of any kind. Then again, few proprietary maps carry a guarantee of accuracy, either. In fact, some have artificially-introduced errors." Furthermore, I and others have already confirmed this with even GB OS maps; deliberate errors and moved paths (some from 10 years or more after the change was documented by the local council/county are not reflected on the latest OS maps). Not everything is accurately mapped, even on 1:25K. All maps should be considered a guide and not a factual statement. To participate and help improve the maps you just need to go to http://www.openstreetmap.org; create an account, upload your tracks from your GPSr and then edit the maps. Help on how to do this can be found on the OpenStreetMap site. The contour data is from The Scottish Mountaineering Club, more details about them can be found here: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.php I have tested these maps on a Garmin Oregon 200 [the full British Isles & Ireland versions with contour data] and also on a computer in MapSource/BaseCamp for those versions designed for use with it to ensure that they load and render as expected. I do not test all the map data or functions as this is not possible in a reasonable time-frame. Hope this helps? All feedback and comments are most welcome. Also, I am now hosting the UK Geocaching Records that were originally hosted/maintained by Mongoose39uk (these can be found on the same site as the maps I offer). Unfortunately as my 'spare' time is very limited so far this year I haven't managed to update the records page. Anyone submitting records should ensure that they supply a bookmark of the caches in their record. I have reorganised the map page on the site to hopefully make it easier to find which mapset you want and updated the compatibility table with new models reported to work. Regards, Martin

For all those interested: Another week and another set of updates... Over the weekend I have compiled the latest GB/British Isles/Ireland map tiles with contours into new maps for Garmin GPSrs. The British Isles mapsets I compile include the following areas (this has now replaced the UK mapset): England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The GB mapset I compile includes the following areas: England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands The Ireland mapset I compile include the following areas: Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The full GB/British Isles/Ireland mapsets come with contour data [contour data is from the Scottish Mountaineering Club] and are now routable. The updated ones are prefixed with 111223 [the old ones are prefixed with 111216] and should be available on the following link as of now. These new ones include all changes made to the OSM mapping data up to the 23rd December 2011. If you want to grab them then you can find them here: http://talkytoaster.info As these are new, please report any problems directly to me, via my profile on Geocaching.com or via my Gmail account [talkytoasteruk@gmail.com]. This update not only includes newer routable versions with contours for GB/British Isles/Ireland, but also routable versions without contour data. The UK mapset has now been replaced by a British Isles one (it covers the same area). More details about the routing features can be found in the FAQ on my site. I have versions of the GB/British Isles & Ireland mapsets which are compatible with MapSource/BaseCamp (PC), and have also been tested in MapSource/BaseCamp before release. Versions for Mac OSX (RoadTrip/BaseCamp) are also available. Details and the maps can be found here: http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm This should allow those that have Garmin GPSrs with limited memory to select small areas to upload to these devices complete with contour data. If anyone wants similar maps (with or without contours) for other parts of Europe or elsewhere, then please feel free to contact me to discuss your needs. CAVEAT: No mapping solution is perfect. From OpenStreetMap:- "By the very nature of the wiki-style process there is no guarantee of accuracy of any kind. Then again, few proprietary maps carry a guarantee of accuracy, either. In fact, some have artificially-introduced errors." Furthermore, I and others have already confirmed this with even GB OS maps; deliberate errors and moved paths (some from 10 years or more after the change was documented by the local council/county are not reflected on the latest OS maps). Not everything is accurately mapped, even on 1:25K. All maps should be considered a guide and not a factual statement. To participate and help improve the maps you just need to go to http://www.openstreetmap.org; create an account, upload your tracks from your GPSr and then edit the maps. Help on how to do this can be found on the OpenStreetMap site. The contour data is from The Scottish Mountaineering Club, more details about them can be found here: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.php I have tested these maps on a Garmin Oregon 200 [the full British Isles & Ireland versions with contour data] and also on a computer in MapSource/BaseCamp for those versions designed for use with it to ensure that they load and render as expected. I do not test all the map data or functions as this is not possible in a reasonable time-frame. Hope this helps? All feedback and comments are most welcome. Also, I am now hosting the UK Geocaching Records that were originally hosted/maintained by Mongoose39uk (these can be found on the same site as the maps I offer). Unfortunately as my 'spare' time is very limited so far this year I haven't managed to update the records page. Anyone submitting records should ensure that they supply a bookmark of the caches in their record. I have reorganised the map page on the site to hopefully make it easier to find which mapset you want and updated the compatibility table with new models reported to work. Regards, Martin

OK, I told a porkie, there are new maps this week I actually wasn't away as long as I expected, so the maps got done as usual after all. For all those interested: Another week and another set of updates... Over the weekend I have compiled the latest GB/British Isles/Ireland map tiles with contours into new maps for Garmin GPSrs. The British Isles mapsets I compile include the following areas (this has now replaced the UK mapset): England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The GB mapset I compile includes the following areas: England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands The Ireland mapset I compile include the following areas: Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The full GB/British Isles/Ireland mapsets come with contour data [contour data is from the Scottish Mountaineering Club] and are now routable. The updated ones are prefixed with 111216 [the old ones are prefixed with 111209] and should be available on the following link as of now. These new ones include all changes made to the OSM mapping data up to the 16th December 2011. If you want to grab them then you can find them here: http://talkytoaster.info As these are new, please report any problems directly to me, via my profile on Geocaching.com or via my Gmail account [talkytoasteruk@gmail.com]. This update not only includes newer routable versions with contours for GB/British Isles/Ireland, but also routable versions without contour data. The UK mapset has now been replaced by a British Isles one (it covers the same area). More details about the routing features can be found in the FAQ on my site. I have versions of the GB/British Isles & Ireland mapsets which are compatible with MapSource/BaseCamp (PC), and have also been tested in MapSource/BaseCamp before release. Versions for Mac OSX (RoadTrip/BaseCamp) are also available. Details and the maps can be found here: http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm This should allow those that have Garmin GPSrs with limited memory to select small areas to upload to these devices complete with contour data. If anyone wants similar maps (with or without contours) for other parts of Europe or elsewhere, then please feel free to contact me to discuss your needs. CAVEAT: No mapping solution is perfect. From OpenStreetMap:- "By the very nature of the wiki-style process there is no guarantee of accuracy of any kind. Then again, few proprietary maps carry a guarantee of accuracy, either. In fact, some have artificially-introduced errors." Furthermore, I and others have already confirmed this with even GB OS maps; deliberate errors and moved paths (some from 10 years or more after the change was documented by the local council/county are not reflected on the latest OS maps). Not everything is accurately mapped, even on 1:25K. All maps should be considered a guide and not a factual statement. To participate and help improve the maps you just need to go to http://www.openstreetmap.org; create an account, upload your tracks from your GPSr and then edit the maps. Help on how to do this can be found on the OpenStreetMap site. The contour data is from The Scottish Mountaineering Club, more details about them can be found here: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.php I have tested these maps on a Garmin Oregon 200 [the full British Isles & Ireland versions with contour data] and also on a computer in MapSource/BaseCamp for those versions designed for use with it to ensure that they load and render as expected. I do not test all the map data or functions as this is not possible in a reasonable time-frame. Hope this helps? All feedback and comments are most welcome. Also, I am now hosting the UK Geocaching Records that were originally hosted/maintained by Mongoose39uk (these can be found on the same site as the maps I offer). Unfortunately as my 'spare' time is very limited so far this year I haven't managed to update the records page. Anyone submitting records should ensure that they supply a bookmark of the caches in their record. I have reorganised the map page on the site to hopefully make it easier to find which mapset you want and updated the compatibility table with new models reported to work. Regards, Martin

For all those interested: Another week and another set of updates... Over the weekend I have compiled the latest GB/British Isles/Ireland map tiles with contours into new maps for Garmin GPSrs. The British Isles mapsets I compile include the following areas (this has now replaced the UK mapset): England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The GB mapset I compile includes the following areas: England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands The Ireland mapset I compile include the following areas: Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The full GB/British Isles/Ireland mapsets come with contour data [contour data is from the Scottish Mountaineering Club] and are now routable. The updated ones are prefixed with 111209 [the old ones are prefixed with 111118] and should be available on the following link as of now. These new ones include all changes made to the OSM mapping data up to the 9th December 2011. If you want to grab them then you can find them here: http://talkytoaster.info As these are new, please report any problems directly to me, via my profile on Geocaching.com or via my Gmail account [talkytoasteruk@gmail.com]. This update not only includes newer routable versions with contours for GB/British Isles/Ireland, but also routable versions without contour data. The UK mapset has now been replaced by a British Isles one (it covers the same area). More details about the routing features can be found in the FAQ on my site. I have versions of the GB/British Isles & Ireland mapsets which are compatible with MapSource/BaseCamp (PC), and have also been tested in MapSource/BaseCamp before release. Versions for Mac OSX (RoadTrip/BaseCamp) are also available. Details and the maps can be found here: http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm This should allow those that have Garmin GPSrs with limited memory to select small areas to upload to these devices complete with contour data. If anyone wants similar maps (with or without contours) for other parts of Europe or elsewhere, then please feel free to contact me to discuss your needs. CAVEAT: No mapping solution is perfect. From OpenStreetMap:- "By the very nature of the wiki-style process there is no guarantee of accuracy of any kind. Then again, few proprietary maps carry a guarantee of accuracy, either. In fact, some have artificially-introduced errors." Furthermore, I and others have already confirmed this with even GB OS maps; deliberate errors and moved paths (some from 10 years or more after the change was documented by the local council/county are not reflected on the latest OS maps). Not everything is accurately mapped, even on 1:25K. All maps should be considered a guide and not a factual statement. To participate and help improve the maps you just need to go to http://www.openstreetmap.org; create an account, upload your tracks from your GPSr and then edit the maps. Help on how to do this can be found on the OpenStreetMap site. The contour data is from The Scottish Mountaineering Club, more details about them can be found here: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.php I have tested these maps on a Garmin Oregon 200 [the full British Isles & Ireland versions with contour data] and also on a computer in MapSource/BaseCamp for those versions designed for use with it to ensure that they load and render as expected. I do not test all the map data or functions as this is not possible in a reasonable time-frame. Hope this helps? All feedback and comments are most welcome. Also, I am now hosting the UK Geocaching Records that were originally hosted/maintained by Mongoose39uk (these can be found on the same site as the maps I offer). Unfortunately as my 'spare' time is very limited so far this year I haven't managed to update the records page. Anyone submitting records should ensure that they supply a bookmark of the caches in their record. I have reorganised the map page on the site to hopefully make it easier to find which mapset you want and updated the compatibility table with new models reported to work. Please Note: There will be no new maps next weekend as I'm away on business again. Regards, Martin

Hi, Thanks for confirming this. The earlier British-Isles ones (from over 6 weeks ago) had a problem on the new Etrex 20/30 models. I found the issue and fixed it. However,the GB an IE maps did not suffer from the problem and have always worked on the new Etrex 20/30 models. Not sure if the problem was just due to the earlier firmware or a mixture of that and the error in the British-Isles mapset? Interestingly the old British-Isles mapset (with the issue) worked fine on ALL other Garmin models. I will be compiling new mapsets this weekend. Regards, Martin

Hi, They do load directly now and I've had several Etrex 20/30 owner confirm this. I've even supplied some Etrex 20/30 owners with pre-loaded MicroSD cards and had no issues reported. This assumes that you have the latest firmware and one of the mapsets that are known to work. Which as of about a month ago should be the GB, IE and British-Isles mapsets pre-compiled for direct use on Garmin GPSRs. Some people prefer to use the Mapsource/Basecamp edition instead. Regards, Martin

For all those interested: Another week and another set of updates... Over the weekend I have compiled the latest GB/British Isles/Ireland map tiles with contours into new maps for Garmin GPSrs. The British Isles mapsets I compile include the following areas (this has now replaced the UK mapset): England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The GB mapset I compile includes the following areas: England Wales Scotland Isle of Man Channel Islands The Ireland mapset I compile include the following areas: Northern Ireland Republic of Ireland The full GB/British Isles/Ireland mapsets come with contour data [contour data is from the Scottish Mountaineering Club] and are now routable. The updated ones are prefixed with 111118 [the old ones are prefixed with 111111] and should be available on the following link as of now. These new ones include all changes made to the OSM mapping data up to the 18th November 2011. If you want to grab them then you can find them here: http://talkytoaster.info As these are new, please report any problems directly to me, via my profile on Geocaching.com or via my Gmail account [talkytoasteruk@gmail.com]. This update not only includes newer routable versions with contours for GB/British Isles/Ireland, but also routable versions without contour data. The UK mapset has now been replaced by a British Isles one (it covers the same area). More details about the routing features can be found in the FAQ on my site. I have versions of the GB/British Isles & Ireland mapsets which are compatible with MapSource/BaseCamp (PC), and have also been tested in MapSource/BaseCamp before release. Versions for Mac OSX (RoadTrip/BaseCamp) are also available. Details and the maps can be found here: http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm This should allow those that have Garmin GPSrs with limited memory to select small areas to upload to these devices complete with contour data. If anyone wants similar maps (with or without contours) for other parts of Europe or elsewhere, then please feel free to contact me to discuss your needs. CAVEAT: No mapping solution is perfect. From OpenStreetMap:- "By the very nature of the wiki-style process there is no guarantee of accuracy of any kind. Then again, few proprietary maps carry a guarantee of accuracy, either. In fact, some have artificially-introduced errors." Furthermore, I and others have already confirmed this with even GB OS maps; deliberate errors and moved paths (some from 10 years or more after the change was documented by the local council/county are not reflected on the latest OS maps). Not everything is accurately mapped, even on 1:25K. All maps should be considered a guide and not a factual statement. To participate and help improve the maps you just need to go to http://www.openstreetmap.org; create an account, upload your tracks from your GPSr and then edit the maps. Help on how to do this can be found on the OpenStreetMap site. The contour data is from The Scottish Mountaineering Club, more details about them can be found here: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.php I have tested these maps on a Garmin Oregon 200 [the full British Isles & Ireland versions with contour data] and also on a computer in MapSource/BaseCamp for those versions designed for use with it to ensure that they load and render as expected. I do not test all the map data or functions as this is not possible in a reasonable time-frame. Hope this helps? All feedback and comments are most welcome. Also, I am now hosting the UK Geocaching Records that were originally hosted/maintained by Mongoose39uk (these can be found on the same site as the maps I offer). Unfortunately as my 'spare' time is very limited so far this year I haven't managed to update the records page. Anyone submitting records should ensure that they supply a bookmark of the caches in their record. I have reorganised the map page on the site to hopefully make it easier to find which mapset you want and updated the compatibility table with new models reported to work. Please Note: There will be no new maps next weekend as I'm away on business in Denmark again, and the following week I am in Newcastle (so there may be no new maps that week too). Regards, Martin

Hi, Glad you sorted it out. Regards, Martin

Hi, That is indeed the reason as most people only want one mapset and with older Garmin units you can only have one mapset (GMAPSUPP.IMG). It is only the later models (Oregon, Colorado, Montana, Etrex 20/30, GPSMap 62s/st, etc.) that support multiple mapsets of almost any name (as long as it has a .img extension and is a valid Garmin map format file). To be honest I have multiple mapsets installed on my own Oregon 200, including a number of OSM ones (British-Isles+Contours, Europe, Bahrain, Africa and Garmin Discoverer 1:50 Southern UK). I switch between them regularly (mainly via profiles) as I travel a lot for work. Mine are named like this on my Orgeon 200: africa.img bahrain.img 111111-BIC.img Europe.img I always test the latest mapsets that I compile and make available, and I haven't had any reports of the latest ones not working (prefixed 111111). Not sure why JohnandNorma are having an issue? Certainly you need to have a reasonably up to date firmware installed on the Oregon for multiple mapsets to be recognised. The only thing I can think of is that the file is either incomplete, damaged or incorrectly named. If you use Windows it will often hide the .img extension and if you put it back the file ends up as filename.img.img which may fail to be recognised by a Garmin GPSR (due to the double extension). Hope you get to the bottom of this mystery. Regards, Martin