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I almost built a sprinkler cache and placed it at a local park. However, it would draw attention to itself if it didn't function, and the maintenance crew might replace it... hehe

Obviously you don't know much about how poachers really operate. And BTW: poaching is done all the time-- night and day, and not just during the non-hunting seasons. Every poacher has his own techniques... Boy, am I NOT gonna get into an argument about how much I know about poaching. Name me some statistics or reports (with references) of poachers shooting bystanders (who are not part of the poaching operation) by accident? -FreeMe So basically you are saying that there has to be previous instances to prove that you should practice being safe at all times when in the woods. I guess some people don't value their lives and trust that poachers are "extra safe" since they are already committing a crime...<G> If anyone's firing a gun into the woods at cans, animals, whatever, and they miss, it could go through the brush and hit someone they did not see on the other side-- which in this case, orange would not have helped. I know a lot more about firearms than you probably think I do. I have also taken hunter safety, and I know there are many people out there who can pass tests yet fail to exercise what they have learned. In fact, some states do not require people over a certain age to have passed a hunter safety course to get their hunting permit. I know of three cases where people have been killed in hunting accidents. 1. My grandfather's brother was killed by another hunter, while hunting... 2. My brother's friends friend was killed in a hunting accident. 3. My brother's friend's son's friend was killed in a hunting accident.

You are definately wrong on your definition: poach2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pch) v. poached, poach·ing, poach·es v. intr. To trespass on another's property in order to take fish or game. To take fish or game in a forbidden area. To become muddy or broken up from being trampled. Used of land. To sink into soft earth when walking. To take or appropriate something unfairly or illegally. Sports. To play a ball out of turn or in another's territory, as in doubles tennis. v. tr. To trespass on (another's property) for fishing or hunting. To take (fish or game) illegally. To make (land) muddy or broken up by trampling. To take or appropriate unfairly or illegally. Sports. To play (a ball) out of turn or in another's territory.

We are not bashing ALL hunters. We are just being cautious and SAFE. There's always someone out there who might have an accidental shooting or be a little careless at some point or another. Its better to be safe and prepared. Cops have Negligent Discharges all the time.

Quite the contrary! Poachers tend to stop and shoot from the side of the road in my area, and by the nature of their illegal activity, do so under pressure and are more likely to make a rushed shot. Also, poachers are more likely to do this at night, when even blaze orange may not be quickly identifiable in their spotlight. Maybe things are different in your area. But around here, there are plenty of places to shoot game out of season without being rushed or having a difficult shot. This is different than "in-season poaching", which is often as you describe. Speaking as one who has heard poachers discuss their methods, I am confident that it is very unlikely that anyone would be shot accidentally by a poacher - even at night. At least not in this state (Idaho). Most (off season) poachers are repeat offenders. They know where and when to do their stuff without witnesses. They learned their "craft" from other experienced poachers. That's why they are so hard to catch. BTW - have YOU ever seen blaze orange in a spotlight? Doesn't sound like it... Also BTW - blaze orange isn't an issue here, because we're talking about out-of-season poaching (at least, I was). -ST Umm.. No I wasn't. I was talking about POACHING, not out-of-season poaching.

Obviously you don't know much about how poachers really operate. And BTW: poaching is done all the time-- night and day, and not just during the non-hunting seasons. Every poacher has his own techniques...

What has this to do with the subject of this thread? Other than bashing hunters, I mean. -ST Umm.. isn't it obvious? If a hunter is firing multiple shots, while chasing an animal, a stray shot might come your way... DUH!

Also, remember that some hunters like to fire multiple shots and/or chase the animal while shooting at it, for example from a moving vehicle.

I think everyone should realize that just because the state says you can only hunt between certain dates, does not mean that poachers follow the laws. Poaching is very common, however I should also point out something else-- varmint hunting is legal (depending on staqte/county) and usually allowed year-round. Also, many hunters do not wear orange, even if its the law. Bottom line: hunting season is year round, but of course more common during deer and turkey season.

This is old, but I just stumbled across the story... I wonder what the results of the case were since it was 2.5 years ago... ??? I assume there might have been more cases similar to this? http://www.newmassmedia.com/nac.phtml?code...c_fea&ref=16435 GPS: Gotta Pay for Speeding Coming to small claims court: Roadrunner vs. Acme Rent-a-Car. By Colleen Van Tassell Published 06/14/01 James Turner is taking Big Brother to small claims court. Turner's taking his own car. Big Brother's driving a rental. A rental outfitted with a high-tech device that tracks your every move. One that records your speed. One that enables rental car agents to rip off unsuspecting drivers. Turner's really suing Acme Rent-A-Car on Whalley Avenue in New Haven for cozying up with Big Brother. He's trying to recoup a $450 charge for allegedly speeding on his way to Virginia in an Acme minivan. The van was equipped with a Global Positioning System, or GPS, which transmits data via satellite. It clocked him "going at speeds in excess of 90 mph on three separate occasions," according to court papers. The internal device did, but the cops didn't. When Turner signed Acme's rental agreement last October, he didn't notice the warning at the top of the contract that read: "Vehicles in excess of posted speed limit will be charged $150 fee per occurrence. All our vehicles are GPS equipped." Little did Turner know that his van was equipped with a sophisticated device called AirIQ. Turner was a regular customer at Acme. His position as box office manager at the Palace Performing Arts Center takes him out of town to check out shows. Acme's close to his home for convenient pickup and drop-off. He's signed many contracts with Acme. That day last fall, he didn't notice the warning at the top of the contract. He provided his bank debit card and left. "Even if I had seen the GPS warning, I'd think it was for getting lost, not to track my every move," said Turner. If he had understood the warning came from Big Brother, "I would've requested another car without GPS." There's the rub. GPS falls under the vast heading of telematics, and can mean a variety of services. What's not clear in the contract is that Acme uses AirIQ, a Toronto-based, worldwide wireless application service provider. It's geared toward managing fleets of commercial trucks and rental cars. AirIQ is much more intrusive than many auto navigational systems. In addition to providing maps and location tools, according to its Web site, it also allows rental car agents to "manage driver behavior by auditing location information" and "receive boundary crossing and excessive speed reports." An agent can even shut a car off by remote control if it's going too fast or heading into territory it's not supposed to be in. But defining "excessive speed" is in the hands of the fleet manager. An AirIQ spokeswoman says the system allows the rental car agent to set an internal speed limit on each car. So if the limit is set at 55, a driver traveling the legal speed limit of 65 would be "speeding." (There's no evidence that happened to Turner, since Acme claims he was going over 90.) AirIQ's speed reports cost Turner $450 in "fines." When he returned to New Haven on a Sunday night, he drove to an ATM to get some cash and discovered his account was drained. There were three mysterious $150 withdrawals. Before he returned the car on Monday he called the bank and was told Acme withdrew his money. An Acme employee handed Turner a map with arrows pointing to the three areas where they claim AirIQ tracked him speeding. The employee showed him the contract and pointed to the warning. "I was tracked across seven states," said Turner. "It felt creepy." Turner called a lawyer. Acme called a lawyer. What seems like a simple contractual dispute in small claims court has larger legal significance, according to Turner's lawyer, Bernadette Keyes. Acme's lawyer, Max Brunswick, agrees, but for different reasons. Brunswick says his client is forced to use the AirIQ system. "People leave the state and abandon cars, resulting in devastating revenue losses for my client." Fine, that's where locator types of GPS come in. But why does Acme use speed tracking? Brunswick claims it's for humanitarian reasons, that it's not about collecting money. "It saves lives by discouraging speeding. It's an accepted [rental car] trade practice." He didn't know if his client was presetting speed limits. The Advocate called five major rental car agencies in Greater New Haven. Only one, Hertz, uses GPS, and only for navigation. "We don't track speeding," a manager says. Which is not to say that other, smaller rental car agencies may not be using GPS to track speeding. This is Keyes' fear--that small rental agencies will use devices like AirIQ but not make it clear to their customers. She challenges the assumption that the warning atop Acme's contract tells customers enough about GPS. "I never heard of it, have you?" Keyes asks. (I hadn't). She believes Acme should explain GPS (and AirIQ in particular) to customers. She believes it discriminates against technological have-nots and especially poorer people. "More important is the issue of due process," says Keyes. "There's no system for challenging this fine. At least when you get a ticket, the court system allows you to contest it." She claims the speeding charges are constitutionally invalid and go against public policy. Keyes has alerted the Connecticut attorney general's office and the state Department of Consumer Protection. A Consumer Protection lawyer says the department is investigating six other complaints against Acme but won't explain the nature of the complaints. No court date has been set. Yet.

Looks like Etch-A-Sketch drawing to me...

I think he meant "pot" like as in "pot" of gold...

Was it hidden well enough to where he would not normally stumble across it? Maybe he used the resources of this site to find caches in his area. If he really wanted you to remove it, he would have tried to contact you through this site. I think he has other motives...

I have a couple sets of these stamps from Harbor Freight. Got them on sale-- about 1/2 off. The 1/8" size letters seem to be the most popular. We use them for making aluminum tree tags with coordinates on them. FYI: regarding the main topic title: taps & dies are used for threading... PS: After camoflaging the tags, rubbing wax, from a wax pencil or crayon, into the indentations makes it easy to read.

Just added my info!

I don't think there should be any rules on microcaches, or any cache for that matter. If you don't like it, tough. Someone took the time (maybe not as much time & effort as you would like) to create the cache, and there are many many many lame caches out there-- not just microcaches. Determining if a cache is lame depends on each person's opinion. Its all about the hunt, not the cheezy cheap prizes found in a container either. Some people just take a container, throw some cheap $.02 items in it, toss it in the bushes and post the coordinates. Personally, this isn't challenging enough for me and a waste of time, but for some people this is what they like. Think of the children-- maybe a child placed the cache or is the one hunting for it. I do think there should be more options/criteria to describe each cache for online searching though... BTW: my first & only placed-cache was a night microcache, and it was all about the hunt, which is why it was a micro. The final container was pretty slick and it tricked a lot of people even though we had the area clearly marked.

Remember, sometimes GPS units will be on sale at other places, and sometimes they will not be on sale.... Tip: always check around before you buy...

Are there time stamps on each point so she can see when and how long he was at the hotel and restaurant?

You would think the software could be patched to prevent this, and to "fix" all current entries of this nature...

I have found the basic flat reflective thumb-tacks at Academy too...

"we"...

As much as I know about travel bugs (very little, but I do know of one that went from TX to CA recently via Continental Airlines), they go from one cache to another-- That's it! Nobody ever stated they could only travel within the same city, 5 mile radius, state, zip code, country, hemisphere, etc. Don't like it? Tough-- don't make TBs then, or make your goals clear and *hope* they comply... I think its cool that they travel so far-- how else are they supposed to get around???

quote:Originally posted by DougsBrat:

PS: I am in the McKinney area, but can easily go as far as Ft. Worth on a regular basis....

I was at the Golden Corral breakfast yesterday-- went with some friends. Met a couple people, including the host of the breakfast. See you guys at the next breakfast. If you want, we can meet up sometime for lunch one weekend... or weekday.