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SkinGuy

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  1. More than happy to lend my whip to this dead horse....

     

    Here's my reasoning:

     

    If I have a cache placed, I'd like to know what is going on with it (for good or for bad). Sometimes the DNF logs are some of the most well-written, humorous, and informative parts of a cache page -- I love reading them on my pages.

     

    Back to the Golden Rule: Do unto others...

     

    Translated: If I can't find a cache, I'll log a DNF (sometimes several for the same cache, if there are multiple unsuccessful attempts...). This is one way to keep the cache owners informed.

     

    The other part: I like to place fairly devious caches -- not impossible, but more difficult than the local average. The cachers in the area know this, and are ready for the difficult hunt -- and ready to crow their finds (or whine about DNFs) on the cache page. This is one of the great parts of our game! I just can't see placing a cache that is likely to generate DNFs (and expect others to log their DNFs) if I'm not willing to log one myself.

     

    Rambling pair of pennies, that... :P

  2. I've had a vague idea burning in the ol' dome for quite some time, and would love to hear any comments or suggestions from the crowd.

     

    What is the "Impossible Cache?"

     

    No -- not the tiny micro hidden at the bottom of a huge pile of rocks, or the puzzle which is too arcane for anyone to solve. The cache in mind is one that would cause cachers to think or say: "That CAN'T be a cache..." or "There CAN'T be a cache there..."

     

    The hope is to place a cache that is so unlikely in it's placement or hiding that it doesn't seem possible for it to exist at all. Hanging in midair, perhaps? Or in a public (but hard to access) spot (e.g. on some part of Rushmore or the Statue of Liberty).

     

    Before anyone yells -- I understand that those last two locations are not appropriate for caches, and I do not advocate putting caches there. It would be important for the "Impossible Cache" to follow all of the same rules for other caches. Hopefully those 'examples' will start the mental wheels rolling.

     

    Any ideas? Anyone?

     

    SkinGuy

  3. If you kept a copy of the log that was deleted, and of the email sent to you by the cache owner who deleted the log, I would send those to the cache approvers. For the sake of courtesy, I would CC the cache owner as well.

     

    You don't want to create hard feelings if it is avoidable, but:

     

    1. You have genuine concerns about the safety of the cache.

    2. From reading your post, you have the background to be able to make reasonable judgements about the safety of a given situation.

    3. The cache owner is apparently unwilling to address those concerns.

     

    If the cache approvers review the information that you send and decide to leave the cache as is, then so be it. If they request that additional information be added to the cache page, then so be it. In my opinion, they should be informed of your concerns. No one is well-served if a cache is an unfortunate event waiting to happen.

     

    FWIW.

     

    SkinGuy

  4. I know that everyone has their own likes and dislikes... still it's tough to understand why one would decide against doing multicaches at all. Some of the nicest hikes around (Dierkes Delirium, Cliffhanger) my area are multis.

     

    It is my hope that for every cache that is placed there is a reason. That reason may be to get folks to an interesting (or beautiful or educational or special...) spot. It may be because of a unique hiding container or style that the cacher has devised. It may be as part of a puzzle. It may have some special meaning to the hider that is not obvious to the seeker (I have two placed with my small children which would fit this category). Some may try to add an new idea to the sport.

     

    The caches which should be discouraged are not the multis, and they are not the micros, and they are not the traditional caches. They are the boxes, tins, film cannisters, and ammo cans which are placed without any reason for their existence. Make each cache count.

     

    ...just my pair of pennies...

     

    SkinGuy

  5. I think most of the anonymousity (word?) is probably due to people not wanting you to know who they are.

     

    I think the word you are looking for is "anonymity." I kind of like anonymousity -- like a cross between anonymous and animosity. You can dislike someone without giving away your identity...

     

    EUREKA! That may be the single best word for describing some of the forum interactions ever seen!

     

    :grin:

  6. I am guilty of sometimes having a brief log for caches that I find -- have never used "TNLNSL." I agree with the sentiment of at least noting the enjoyment of the find, the area, the hunt, or something else memorable.

     

    On a couple of occasions, I've gone with a friend to hit as many caches as possible during a long caching day (42 caches and 30 caches on those days). Although I try to recall each one while making the logs, only a few will stand out in my brain -- so some of the logs really aren't much more than: "Thanks for the cache, #11/33 for the day."

     

    That isn't meant as any kind of a reflection on the quality of the cache, but more on the limited space on my mental hard drive.

     

    On caches that I have placed, I certainly appreciate a longer cache note -- that way I have some idea of what was done right or wrong with that particular cache. I don't think that it makes sense, however, to take offense at simple cache logs (or solely initials).

     

    SkinGuy

  7. I found a large urban cache some time ago. It had various log entries from non-cachers, suggesting that it may have been used as a stash for marijuana (none there when we found it...). One of the only laugh-out-loud logs that I can remember:

     

    Took weed. Left quickly.

     

     

    After finding a cache placed by a friend of ours, my brother logged online:

     

    Nice little canyon. Interesting spot. I found this cache with Skinguy. This is another one of those "drove past a million times but never stopped" caches.

    Took- Ammo Box

    Left- Tupperware

    Thanks!

     

    That got a few good laughs (and raised eyebrows, and panicked phone calls...)

     

    BTW -- he didn't.

  8. Altoids tins under lamp posts are God's gifts to geocaching.

     

    I enjoy taking high-value items and leaving expired coupons in return.

     

    Subigo is my sock puppet account.

     

    Remember the last cache you found that was left uncovered and open? That was me.

     

    You know that turd you found 3 feet from that one cache? Yeah, that was me too.

    ROTFLMAO!

     

    ...thought that might be you...

  9. I placed a cache that is just outside my office window. The day after I placed it, I saw some folks outside looking conspicuously like cachers (palm out, GPSr on, pacing back and forth...). I went out to say "hello" in my white coat -- wonderful folks!

     

    They told me that their first lock had put them on my roof -- with a chuckle, I let them know that it was not on the roof.

     

    Then they looked up and yelled "Hey, Mike! It's not on the roof!"

     

    ...so what should I do?

     

    Still in my white lab coat, I climbed the ladder up to my roof, where I see Mike (a geocacher from out of town whom I had never met...) wandering around, GPS in hand.

     

    Here he is, walking on the roof of a doctor's office in a town that he doesn't really know -- and the doctor just appeared on the roof!

     

    "Uhh.... Do you know anything about geocaching?"

     

    Not a bad answer given the situation!

  10. The best DNF I ever had was on a cache I didn't really get to look for. I got to the site, and before I had a chance to search, I ran into the cache owner (whom I had never met). We shot the breeze for the entire "search time" -- didn't find it, got to add another frowny face to my collection, but had a wonderful time.

     

    BTW: I was leaning on the cache during most of the chat. How he kept a straight face is completely beyond me... found it the next time out, though... B)

  11. Give me a break. Of course nice sociable community organizers are a great asset for a community. But so are people who challenge others to do unusual and interesting things.

    It would be great if everybody was a nice friendly pal ... but if somebody feels down and irritable by the end of winter, and looses one's cool, you shouldn't be all shouting "We are better off without you!". That's totally uncool too.

    I mean, say this guy co-localized some of his puzzle caches in a single container - thus violating the letter, but certainly not the spirit, of the cache density rule. I'd give him a permission to go on with this. Such a big deal. Why snub a creative but not terribly sociable cacher over small stuff like this?

     

    I'm all for "creative" cachers and caches -- there is much to geocaching that seldom gets explored. Please feel free to work on new ideas, but there is no need to be belligerent with the approvers, the folks in the forum, or other local cachers. In the archive note that this cacher made on a cache referenced above he said:

     

    this cache is way to hard for anyone in southeast idaho. a 4-

    D cache is out of the question. it took someone from out of state to solve this cache. of course, i expect nothing less from a bunch of hillbillies

     

    There is no place in geocaching -- indeed no place in ANY endeavor -- for that kind of attitude.

  12. Hmm.... must be common to find *adult novelties* while caching. I was working to find a cache called "Lovers Lane" and found -- uh -- an *adult novelty*. Left it there -- didn't have the hazmat suit, so didn't CITO.

     

    Today while finding a cache close to the Snake River Canyon, I found (?) the remnants of one doozy of a halloween party -- a witch's hat (complete with purple stripes) and a green M&M costume.

     

    ...and, sadly, thousands of cans, bottles, spent shotgun shells, and other garbage that morons had left there...

  13. Changing the subject only a bit:

     

    I'd hate to see people stop posting skunks out of fear of getting caches archived. Especially with tougher caches, watching for skunks is part of the game -- whether you are the cache owner, another cacher who was skunked and is watching the cache, or were a cacher who managed to find it.

     

    As an owner, I take a string of skunks to be an indication that I should check the cache; that responsibility should not be abdicated to the moderators.

     

    If emails directly to the cache owner are not productive, then (and IMO only then) should GC.com or the moderators become involved.

     

    *clink* *clink* Two cents deposited.

     

    SkinGuy

  14. I know the cache that RK is talking about. It's a pretty generic cache container in a pretty generic spot (although the terrain around is beautiful). It's also one of my favorite caches, because I am the father who took my three-year-old boy to make and build a geocache.

     

    After we placed the cache, he and his 5-year old sister played on the rocks and admired the lichen on the basalt rocks for almost an hour. We picked up trash (CITO) and wondered aloud to each other who had left their washing machine in the middle of the desert...

     

    There is joy in childhood -- in the hiding, the seeking, and the playing. You don't always have to analyze; it's acceptable merely to enjoy

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