Let me reiterate on my original post in a way that is easier to understand. Since the "guidelines" are "guidelines, (not written on 2 stone tablets), and there are many variations on a multi-cache, then why is it a problem to have a variation on a multi/theme cache that has a separate listing for each stage. Each stage having its own GC#, log and, associated smiley. This type of "multi-cache" has already been done. Shouldn't the owner have a say in his own cache placement and listing. I'm just saying that why is it a problem, if you prefer the "traditional" multi format then stick with that, if someone else wants to do it different then what concern is it to the other cachers. We have enough rigid rule already, hell N.Y. wants to force geo-cachers to get licensed.