IceCreamMan
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Is there anyway to load a GPX file into iPhone form a laptop without having a WiFi connection? We are having a large event in the forest, no cell or WiFi connection, and need to be able to load the cooridinates for the caches, and it sounds like a lot of people have iPhones.
Also, can waypoints be manually entered into an iPhone?
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"The incidence of serious peanut allergies is, for the most part, a media hype job, whose primary effect has been to get our government schools to waste money on the issue."
Ahem. I'm pleased money is spent on this serious issue. If it saves just one life then its money well spent. I don't know what it's like over in America, but In the UK its pretty tough for peanut sufferers with food companies stating in their allergy warnings "May contain traces of nuts" just to cover themselves when the food probably hasn't been anywhere near nuts. It leaves nut allergy suffers really restricted in the food they can eat. Any money spent on education and the serious nature of anaphylaxis is good and is definitely not a waste. As I said before, cache containers are as cheap as chips so I don't really see any need in using old food tubs.
Long as it's YOUR money, you can waste it as you see fit.
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@IceCreamMan, Hey, those look awesome!
Seeker, please don't encourage him. Dave's a wild man! Every time someone pats him on the back, he goes out and hides more. Then I gotta go find them! It's a vicious cycle.
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@IceCreamMan, Hey, those look awesome! Did you just use regular spray paint on them?
For painting plastic you need to use "Fusion" paint. The Camouflage paint they sell at Ace or Walmart has Fusion. Just look for Fusion on the label:
It's good to give them a week after painting them before placing them to make them more resistant to scratching. And for you Peanut Butter Bigots, it's good for lock and locks too.
Start with a light coat and work your way to dark. I use khaki, brown and black, and just use a twig with leaves, broken off from an indigenous tree in my yard for the leaf shapes. Nothing fancy. Just lay it against the container and spray.
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Why take the risk of putting other's health at stake? Wouldn't it just be safer not to use a peanut butter jar! It's not as though containers are expensive. Peanut allergy is a life threatening condition for many people and while people do try and take responsibility for themselves, wouldn't the world be just that much nicer a place if we also looked out for others too?
Out of well over 50,000 cache logs on my hides, there is not one documented case an an allergic reaction (aside from bee stings and poison ivy). I am unaware of ANY case of ANY adverse reaction to a peanut butter jar used as a cache container ANYWHERE (aside from noses being reflexively thrust in the air, but that mostly occurs on the forums, not while actually, you know, caching). In the years this thread has been kept alive I do not recall anyone ever posting any serious reaction involving peanut allergies and caching (though many people know someone who knows someone who knows some who dies on sight of a bag of Planter's).
The incidence of serious peanut allergies is, for the most part, a media hype job, whose primary effect has been to get our government schools to waste money on the issue. This is not to say that there are not isolated cases of serious allergies. However, isn't it reasonable to believe that these hypothetical cachers, afflicted with a life threatening allergy, might recognize the profile of a peanut butter jar when they see it? That they might actually assume responsibility for protecting themselves? Might actually not be a bunch of victimized whiners looking for the rest of us to hold their hands as they enjoy caching?
After all, we do not limit our hides to those that can be done by people in a wheel chair, do we? And, cheese n rice, cachers in wheel chairs actually exist. I have met some of them.
Susceptibility of peanut butter jars to Bear Chomp is definitely a consideration in places crawling with bears, like the Ocala National Forest. And they are not as reliably water tight as an ammo can or a lock and lock. These are reasonable considerations in the selection of a container (as is the relative cost of these alternative containers). Imaginary concerns about some cacher with a deadly allergy to peanuts who can't recognize a peanut butter jar are just that, imaginary.
BTW, in Ocala National Forest, the bears have come to associate the smell of plastic with food, so they even zoom in on spanking new lock an locks. All containers have issues.
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I'm just looking for a good container for SW FL, where we get downpours and areas flood easily.
Ammo cans work well in south Florida. They are technically a used item, so you get extra "Going Green/recycle" karma points. They have several points on them to attach a tether to, so you need not worry about them floating away in a flood, like a PB jar. The percentage of folks physically allergic to 7.62x35 ammo is even less than the percentage of folks allergic to peanuts. They can survive having a Toyota parked on top of them, where a PB jar will get smooshed. They can survive being mauled by bears looking for a chew toy, where PB jars get shredded. You can fit more stuff in an ammo can than you can in a typical PB jar.
In fact, until we run out of ammo cans, I can't think of a single reason why I'd intentionally select a PB jar.
Top then reasons for using a Peanut Butter jar:
10. Small footprint in the jeep
9. Tend to be watertight
8. Size and shape = versatile hiding spots
7. Attractive when painted with cammo fusion paint
6. Just the right size for my Geocaching stencil
5. Often last, safe and dry, for years
4. They are known in some parts as an "ICM Container"
3. One word - free
2. Can keep a forum thread going for years
1. My Grandma left me stock in an EpiPen manufacturing company
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Just a quicky for those who skipped.
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Don't use peanut butter jars, you might hurt someone with a peanut allergy even tho it is a risk that they should be assuming themselves we have to do all we can to defeat Darwin.
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Don't use peanut butter jars you might hurt someone with a peanut allergy use mayo jars, they are bigger and we can kill the people that are allergic to eggs.
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Don't use a serviceable used container, buy a new unused one and help fill landfills quicker.
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Don't try to take responsibility for my problem, I'm not stupid!
Yes you are, so we have to protect you.
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Don't tell me what to do.
Then don't tell me what to do!
What did I just tell you what not to tell me?
Then don't tell me what to do!
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Sum it all up?
You are gifted.
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It's baaaaaaaack.....
EEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!! (ICM screaming like little girl)
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Hmmm. There's rumblings in NEFGAland (home of Geowoodstock 3).
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There are people scattered throughout these forums who are willing to judge an entire organization based upon the actions of one, or a few of it's members.
Worse than that. By a few forum posts by one or a few of it's members. 'Course that's the prevailing hot wind on these forums.
As critical as I am of the forums, I don't for a minute believe that the nasty, narrow, arrogant, low-rent, snarky, cheap shot posts to be found throughout actually represent the real life personalities of the people making them. I know enough of you personally to know better.
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Cheese n Rice! We actually made it to FIVE pages. BTW, thought you'd enjoy seeing a printout of the Audit Log...
12 pages for an event attended by about a dozen and a half people! That has got to be the highest View/Attend ratio in the history of belabored events.
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Now that I have taken the trouble to read through this whole thread I might as well add my interpretation.
It certainly is possible and allowed to list an event as a PMO event, but as can be seen by the responses many people, including myself, see that in a negative light. Posting events that require a hike, or a boat trip is different and quite acceptable.
The CO of the event mentioned did not have to respond to this thread if they were not interested in the opinions of this forum, but they chose to do so, and in an aggressive manner. Amongst other things:
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BEACUSE WE CAN and we have Loads of FUN watching how you people react.
They certainly got a reaction and the publicity they wanted, but it is negative publicity. The following strikes a chord -
OK, now lets compare that statement to the Urban dictionary definition of trolling
I have no doubt that there are many fine cachers out in NEF, that NEFGA is a very good organization, but they got some bad publicity from this thread. If it were me I would not be particularly proud of that.
Eau contradairyair. I consider being poorly thought of on these forums to be a badge of honor.
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Just increasing my post count, apparently.
It's all about the numbers, eh...
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...one of them threatened to post a SBA to the event.
Go ahead. Make my day. You know what they say. People who live in hosiery houses shouldn't throw darning needles.
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The Night of the Invasion of the Critical Event-Judging Zombies....
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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5) Is time an issue because you need to get out on your 24hr event cache run?
The fact that a significant number of the attendees will be departing at the same time would seem to be somewhat of factor in the time alotted for the event. But I reckon the wait staff wanting collect tips from the next batch of grit eaters might be a factor in any case.
6) What Resources are needed more then a hand shake and the words "Welcome"?Gosh. For my next event, are you available as a consultant on welcoming procedures?
7) Is that it in a nutshell?We can probably agree on the nut part.
From what I have read and the questions I am asking, why not just post this event in your local forums? I don't see any need to waste a GC code for it.Because I want to use all the GC codes up and not leave any for my Grandkids.
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I would hate to see how the forums look on that groups site. From what I saw here, I won't bother going there and looking at it.
You're right. You'd hate it.
It was just a question about how and why. The guidelines state one thing and another was done.I'm not sure it was established that this is the case. The guidelines say one thing and one person's interpretation of the guidelines says another. Sounds like dog bites man to me.
there is also a difference in the way things are done on Groundspeak... each reviewer can modify things as he/she sees fit...See. There ARE rules.
Now I have issues/Questions with this event. Before I could realy care less, it was your business. Now I am questing the purpose of your event and if it should be archived.Because it's obviously now your business since you've invested the time and energy in reading this thread and working up your indignation.
1) So you did it as a PM only event just to see if you could get anyone to notice?Well, that's not quit it, but close enough for someone wanting to twist words for his own purposes.
2) Once it did get noticed and someone asked the question as to Why, you and your group just wanted to cause problems and make others mad and ticked off at the responses?Not sure I see it that way. While I can't speak for others, my posts were posted with a light heart poking fun at the whole idea of people expressing opinions about things they don't know about and that won't affect them, as if it's some kind of important social function.
3) The only reason for the event is so people can meet up for a cache run?Not sure where you got that idea.
4) Obviously you don't have room for a large group of cachers, so why host it at that location?Because it's a nice central location and I like the grits there. Do I need more reason than that? I didn't catch that in the guidelines.
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How many forum posters does it take to change a light bulb?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
53 to flame the spell checkers
41 to correct spelling/grammar flames
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another
6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct
156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in violation of their "acceptable use policy"
109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum, and lightbulb forum about changing light bulbs be stopped
111 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this forum
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique and what brands are faulty
27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy
19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three"
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ
44 to ask what is a "FAQ"
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.
1 to state that a light bulb does not emit light, it sucks dark. After it is full, it stays dark.
Just Sayin'
'bout sums it up.
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Do I count. Sure I might not live in Jacksonville, but I am a NEGA member. But my only complaint is that we don't live a little closer,
Course you count. Heck, we even let people from Georgia in (yes, even Bulldog fans).
BTW, there's some good buys on homes in Northeast Florida these days. I'm just saying.
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Does it mean that a thread is a great success or an abysmal failure if it forces PaintFiction to post?
Nope. It just means that after all these years the fourms are still the same as they have always been.
El Diablo
Words of wisdom. Although, I figure anything that gets Paint away from the Wii, if only for a few posts, is a good thing. Besides that, we can now tease him about his growing Post/Find Ratio.
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did a majority of NEFGA members agree to make the event pmo or was it decided by a person or two?
NEFGA is such a large, diverse group, that I don't think they would collectively agree on more than a few essential ideals:
1 ) Beer is good.
2 ) Cooked animal is good.
3 ) Jeeps are good.
4 ) Toyotas are good. (they say that to make Champ feel better)
5 ) Events are good.
6 ) Caching is fun.
As someone who has hosted several events, I've never done so via committee. I just type them up and hit "Submit".
I assume Dave did the same.
Correctamudo. In these parts we like to keep such decissions dictatorial so as to avoid discussions like this one. BTW, we're flexible on the cooked animal thing. We had a vegetarian member once. Turned out he was delicious. It's all about the sauce.
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Thanks for the explanation. Had this been posted, oh 133 entries ago, we could have avoided all this fun.
Had this been handled by an email rather than opening a thread on the forums, that is the explanation you would have gotten.
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DAMMIT MAN! That last comment cost me another nudge to my post count. I've got to get this under control......
Paint! 264 posts? Cheese n Rice. Think of your family.
Not only that, since you've quit logging your finds, every post means your Post to Find ratio creeps higher. Ouch.
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OK, now I remember there is long standing animousity between some members of NEFGA and these forums, dating back to when y'all hosted Geowoodstock. Then 2nd one, I believe.
Good memory. Except it started with GW3.
While that has nothing to do with this thread directly, it probably explains the MYOB attitude of many of the NEFGA posters on this thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The problem is that TPTB frequently interpret what is discussed here as a reflection of the opinions of the geocaching community has a whole. The whinny wheel gets the grease, so to speak. IMO, there is a wide disparity between the high post count folks and Joe the Cacher when it comes to opinions about stuff like this.
People who have never posted an event expound on what should be allowed and what shouldn't be allowed at events they will never attend. Pretty soon you've the reviewers chirping in under their reviewer and non-reviewer personas and then Micheal goes and archives and locks caches without so much as a "hey there pardner". Even if that doesn't happen here, I've seen it happen before. All the while the people who actually hide and find caches and post and attend events are out doing it, and not bloviating here. So their voices aren't heard.
I got an email about this thread from an instigator here (you know who you are), and got a chuckle out of it and posted a link on our thread for the event on our own forum. That drew a lot of NEFGA folks in and, knowing some of the history, it's not surprising some got a little passionate about it. Mainly we all just had a little fun stiring the pot.
Now, much as I hate the idea of explaining myself in these forums, I'll expound a little bit on this event.
I've been wanting to post a local event as Members Only for a long time. Just to see if anyone would notice. By anyone, I mean the people in this area and others whose opinions actually matter to me, not people in AZ and NY. I certainly never expected such a national dust up.
In this area there are a lot of members only caches, so active cachers are almost always Premium Members. It wouldn't have surprised me if the event came and went with no one even noticing. Problem was that, like most of the people here, when I post and event I want to attract newbees, so it just never seemed appropriate to post an event as members only just as an experiment.
This particular event is unusual. It's primary purpose is to see off some cachers on a 24 hour cache run through Northern Florida. Bring bugs for them to delivery. And take care of some local geo-issues. Its a space limited venue and we don't really have the time, space, or resources to spread the welcome mat as we normally would for newbees. In fact, it a newbee shows up I'll be a little embarssed because I'll probably be a poor host for them. In addition, for organizational purposes, I wanted to have the Audit Log available. So it seemed like a good time to run my experiment.
That's it in a nutshell. No hidden agenda to drive up sales of Premium Memberships (not that there would be anything wrong with that). No attempt to exclude anyone. Just a little variation in one of dozens of events to add a little fun.
While things might get testy in these forums, should any of you actually show up at the event, you would find a warm and friendly welcome. We would love to have you.
Florida Finders Fest VII
in General geocaching topics
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Planning is already in the pipeline for FFF8. Working on some details and hope to post the cache page as soon as they are finalized and TPTB allow.