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  1. Hard to believe someone with 43 hides doesn't understand the review process or how to contact a reviewer.


    I think you could pick one reviewer to contact, and if it isn't in that person's queue, they could probably check things out any way.


    I would look harder on how long a cacher has been a memeber than how many hides they have...


    To the OP:

    I would write to either Rock Rabbit, Cascade Reviewer, Ice and Wind (who is a man BTW) or Wizard of Ooze. Probably the one you want to choose is the reviewer that has published most of your other cachers. Personally I hae found Wizard of Ooze to be the mosty responsive to e-mails through their profile page.


    If it got missed then it should not be a problem. If there is some other issue then I would expect tht you might have to wait a while longer...

  2. If it's not obvious who owns the property, and it's not really developed, then City Parks & Recreation (or the local equivalent) is probably a good place to start inquiring. I know of a cache nearby, which I haven't gotten around to doing, that specifically mentions being placed with permission from the city Parks & Recreation department.


    Well she said she left the container at the front counter of the Pubilc Works office. Don't know if the Parks department falls under the Public Works Juridiction (probably does) but I think asking for permission from Public Works is probably the way to go.

  3. Had several more correspondence since my initial post.


    Her reply, just about 15 minutes after I sent my last note:


    I found it in the grassy area on the north side of XXXXX Dr across from the end of XXXXX St. It was laying on the grass where we were trimming branches and grinding them up. I was afraid it would be thrown in the trash.

    The little book says <cache name>. I think it was the seventeenth - one week ago. It took me a while (and the having of time) to figure out how to find you.

    The last entry was 10/2/11.

    I am thinking that the grass probably won't be mowed there for a while and we should be done with the trees and it might be okay to put it back. Perhaps suspended from a branch to keep it off the ground. It blends too well.


    My Reponse:


    You are amazing, again, thank you. the cache is actually supposed to be suspended fromt he branches, that is how it was hidden to begin with. The person that found it last time (on October 2nd) must not have put it back well enough and it fell from it's spot.


    I will get the container and put it back where it is supposed to be. Now that you know it is there, please let your co-workers know that it is supposed to be there and if you could do me the additional favor of asking thme not to remove it in the future I would be even more grateful, if that is even possible.


    Thanks again for taking the time to be helpful.


    And then she wrote back again:


    It is possible that the last person did it right. We were trimming low branches from all the trees in that area. Unless we have a big wind storm, that should be all right.


    The cache is a decon container that was in the low hanging branches of a Douglas Fir, clipped to a branch with a carbiener(sp?). The area itslef is a grassy open area with several trees in it across the street from a park. It is open access, about 200 feet wide from the side walk to an embankment that drops down about 60 feet or so to some railraod tracks and then a river and open water on the other side of th tracks. The tree that the cache was placed in is about 100 feet from both the sidewalk and the embankment. There are no time restrictions or access restrictions on being in the grass and so it never occured to me to ask for permision, although I will certainly inquire about it when I go to pick the container up in the next few days.


    It doesn't sound to me as though she was telling me she removed it from a lack of permission. She didn't understand that the cache was not supposed to be laying on the ground, thought thats where I left it and decided it was probably not a good way to hide it, and she would be right. Lucikly I put a log book and note in the cache that enabled her to track me down which she did.


    I'm still just amazed at the due diligence that this person followed through with. Most other times I think it would have gotten a couple of DNF's, I would have gone to check on it, discovered it really was missing and then just written it off as city maintanence workers and replaced the container. All in all I can't htink of a better way that this could have happened...

  4. My reasons are similar to the last poster. I travel, or at least I did, a lot. My travels would have me living for days at a time out of a hotle in areas where I had nothing to do expcept sit in my hotle room or get out and see thing. Geocaching gave me something to do. Due to my compulsive nature I quickly got hooked. Now I cache everywhere I go and it is somehting I think about every day. Hardly a day goes by where I don't at least THINK about geocaching....

  5. Got this e-mail just a bit ago:


    I found a cache of yours in North XXXXXX. It was in a place it couldn't stay so I took it with me. I don't want to interrupt your process and want to get the container back to you. I work for the City of XXXXXX and you could retrieve the container at the Reception counter at Public Works.


    I responded to the e-mail with the following:


    Hi there,


    First let me say thank you so much for contacting me. It looks to me like you created your geocaching profile just to conatact me and let me know what happened and so I am very grateful for that.


    I will go to the Reception Center at the Public Works building to pick up my container but I am hopeful that you will answer a couple of questions for me. I should know which cache it is when I pick up the container but would you mind telling me where you found it and when? It might be a couple of days before I can get there and I would like to disable the cache so other cachers know not to go and look for it.


    Also if there is a way that I could keep it in it's current location or somewhere nearby, I would appriciate your input. I put a lot of work in to the caches I place and so I would like to try and keep it active if at all possible, even if it has to be in some other form and not in the exact same spot.


    Thank you again for reaching out to me, it is greatly appriciated.



    The cacher that contacted me through my geocaching profile created their account today. Pretty impressive that they figured out what the container was and how to contact me so quickly. Actually, it might not have been so quick as they could be referring to one of three caches, one of which has been missing for at least a month if not longer. I just thought it was cool that they took the time to contact me and let me know how to retrieve my container.


    Thoughts on success on keeping my hide spot or at least somewhere close by?

  6. I just messed with the collectable option on my car TB, it doesnt matter wether it is collectable, or not. it still allows another user to grab it from me.


    If it is in your inventory (the list of bugs that are in your possesion that are moving from cache to cache) then yes, anyone can grab it from you whether it's marked collectable or not. But if you place the bug in your collection then the only options for others that have the tracking number is either to discover it or post a note.


    One other thing to point out is, that if you mark a bug as collectable and then release it for others to find, then someone who finds it int he wild can then move it to their collection. That would not be a desirable thing to have happen. I'm not sure as the owner if you would then be able to remove it from the others collection or not...

  7. Not all puzzles are going to be that easy. I have a 4.5* Puzzle that didn't get solved for days after publishing.

    "Days"? A friend and I drove 6 hours to log a find - a FTF - on a puzzle cache that hadn't been found in 2 years. The owner regularly checked to make sure it was still there. We informed him we solved the puzzle, and he wanted to meet us as we came a great distance for the 2 year FTF.


    The puzzle required no specialized knowledge or skill.


    Sometimes solving a puzzle cache can just be a matter of achieving that "click" of realization. We were in disbelief that we got it, and that it was that simple, and no one else had; suffice to say, after staring at it for 4 days, we drove down that weekend, ASAP, to seal the deal.


    Puzzles can be great fun, and sometimes you never know how easy it really is :)

    (and it was only a 5/1 ;) )


    Well, yes there are those kinds of caches, like this one. Been 4 years and it still hasn't been solved. My point was that some puzzles are better left alone. Especially if you are just starting out on them...

  8. I think the easiest way to help someone do a puzzle is to provide them with a step by step example on how to do one. since it is bad form to tell someone on the forums how to solve someone elses puzzle I will do so on one of my own. My intent on this particular puzzle was to make it easy anyway so if there are locals that now getto find this cache because I have revealed it's secret, then so be it. It's a cool area anyway...


    Start by going to this cache page (GC2XRD9), once you look at the page and read the description there are several things I want you to take note of. The first is the title and the second is the background image. As others have said, these can often be vaulable clues on what the puzzle is about or what you might need to solve it. A quick google search of the title will lead you to the Memory Alpha Web site which as I am sure many of the people reading this are aware, is the wiki style data base for everything Star Trek related. You'll also notice that the background image is the same as what is on the Memory Alpha web site and that the image in the lower left hand coordinate is the logo for the United Federation of Planets, the Universe that Star Trek is written about. You can proably assume at this point htat the information you need can be found on this web site.


    Next take note of the column on the right. You'll notice that there are 15 lines of what appear to be phrases of some sort, maybe you can see that they could be titles. Now googling any one of these might not tell you much but if you google more than one you might start to notice a pattern or if you google a couple in conjunction with the name of the cache you should be able to figure out that each one is the title of a particular Star Trek episode. You might alos notice on the Memory Alpha web site there is a link to the list of the episodes of the various Star Trek shows.


    The fact that there are 15 of them is not insignificant. That is the number of digits in the coordinates of caches found in my area so you now know that you need to look for something from each title that represents a particular digit of the coordinates. You can also assume that the first two digits are going to be 4 and 7 respectively and that the eigth, ninth and tenth digits are gong to be 1, 2, and 2. The reason you can assume this is because Groundspeak limits the distance away from the posted coords of a puzzle cache to where the actual cache is placed. Since the distance of one minute of latitude or longitude is about a mile, you know that a puzzle cache must be placed within two minutes of the posted coords and so unless you are very close to a change in degree than most puzzle caches will have the same digits of the degrees for both the posted and actual coordinates for the cache. This is a very important thing to learn about aolving puzzles as it helps you narrow things down teremendously.


    Now that you know that the puzzle is related to the titles of Star Trek episodes and what the digits of the first two eposdes should represent it should be easier to figure out the rest. I admit that some knowledge of what Star Trek is and how I might relate it to the cache is useful but it's not so much of a leap that you can't figure it out. You'll note from the logs on the cache page that at least a couple of the people that solved the puzzle were not huge fans.


    Take a look a the hint. When you decrypt it you'll see that it says Decimal. This is a clue as well. If you've watched Star Trek before you might remember that most episodes start off with a Captains log, something like "Star Date 22178.9: the Enterpirise is on a routine training mission to..."


    Even if you don't recognize that, if you look up the epsode lists on the Memory Alpha website, you 'll see that each episode is listed along with a "Star Date" which is always a number. Maybe I used those for the numbers of the digits of the coords for the final...


    By investigating a little further you notice that the decimal number for each of the star dates for the episodes that are listed go in order, 4, 7, 5... you start to notice a pattern that makes sense. The answer is the Star Dates decimal points; take them all down in order, enter them into the geochecker and BAM! you've got answer.


    You'll note that I used several different tools to give the cacher clues as to how to solve the puzzle. The Title, The Background, Images in the description, even the font in the text all relate to Star Trek. Each of these either alone or together are common ways for CO's to tell a cacher how to solve puzzles. Start with a couple of easy ones like this, look for commonly used tricks by the CO. Sometimes you will get lucky and know the subject intimately because it realtes to something in your own life. People write puzzles about what they know, if you know it too, it should make it a lot easier.


    Not all puzzles are going to be that easy. I have a 4.5* Puzzle that didn't get solved for days after publishing. I made it that hard on purpose. Among people that make puzzles there is almost a competition to see how difficult they can make it with everyone trying to one up the last guy, similar to those that like to hide "evil" caches. It's probably best to avoid those at first concentrating on just the ones that are less than 3 stars in difficulty. After a while you'll see that it gets much easier once you start to recognize the common tricks. Also, just like people use PAF's for tricky hides, people use them for solving puzzles too. Don't be afraid to aks CO's either through e-mails or at events how to solve a particular puzzle that has you stumped. Most of the time you will find that puzzle writers are more than willing to help others solve their own puzzles.


    I hope this helps. Let me know if anything is unclear.

  9. I was just looking at my hidden caches and noticed a few of them haven't been found in almost a year.

    Does anybody else have caches that never seem to get found? Do you do anything to try and get people to find them, or just let them sit?


    Part of my list:

    19 March 2009 A 2/2 puzzle

    28 August 2010 A 4.5T "cliffside cache"

    23 February 2011 "The Witch Hunt"

    26 March 2011 A parking lot cache!


    Yes, I have several caches that don't get found that often. The ones that get found the least are either puzzles or are in remote areas. I think it is a common phenomenon. Of my 10 least found caches that have been out for more than a year and are still active, only one is traditional, the rest are either puzzles or multi's. The tradititional has a high terrain rating and is difficult to find.


    My most found caches? All but one is a micro and all of them have difficult and/or terrain ratings that are two or less. The only non micro is a 1/1 ammo can that is in plain site at a visitor center. That is alos my most favorited cache.


    I guess my point is, that if the cache is a puzzle or is difficult to get to then your numbers will be low. If it's a park and grab or easy to get to and find then the numbers will be higher. Also, once all of the locals have found your cache, the frequency at which your caches get found will diminish meaning that only visitors to the area or brand new cachers will log finds on your older caches.

  10. I live just a few miles from N42 W71 so my caches are in N41 N42, W70 W71.


    Yeah, mee too. I'm less than a minute south of 48 degrees and a few minutes west of 122 so I'm real close to the 48/122 confluence. Plus my inlaws are real close to the 48/123 confluence and so it's easy for me to spread my degrees around.

  11. Thought I'd try to post something that I haven't seen before in the Forums...


    For those of you that place caches regularly, what are the degrees across which you have placed? I have caches at 47 and 48 degrees North Latitude and 121, 122, and 123 West Longitude. I'm also waiting for a cache to publish (it's an Earth cache) that is at 124 degrees West Longitude.


    So how about you? Do you tend to place caches really close to home or do you take pride in spreading your caches out as far as you can? I am from Washington State and I recently found a cache placed by someone in our state down in Mississippi, more than 2000 miles away. That was an EC too so it's not a maintanence issue but I wonder how many cachers place caches far from what they currently call home.


    Feel free to share caches that you've placed where you lived and moved away from and how that is working out for you now that you've moved and also the cache. And caches that you've placed at Mom's house a thousand miles away that you maintain when you go home for [insert your holiday of choice here]...


    Just one of those things that my mind often wanders into that makes me wonder, thanks for your input.

  12. Just saw this post/cache. Cool idea... A quick look at GSAK and I'm just shy of 3600 points (quite a bit more than I expected). Unfortunalty I need to scan the waver wire for a couple more specialists. I've got my eye on a couple that should put me over the top... This weekend maybe.




    How do you get the information from GSAK? I didn't know that favroties were counted on the gpx files...

  13. Seriously, though, there are ways they can avoid battleshipping, with a bit of programming. Limiting the number of checks a person can make/week, for starters. And making sure they are actually following through and publishing caches with some obvious effort made. The reviewers are still going to see the cache pages and could probably tell if it's a real cache or not.


    Reviewers do not have caches put into their queues until the cache is made active, so your last point does not work. The first is problematic, as well, since publication of many tens of caches per week is not unusual. The limitation on the number of tries per week would have to be much lower than that level.


    In other words, no, there are not effective ways to reduce battleshipping automatically.


    People can battleship with geocheckers already anyway. It doesn't sound like the system is set up to say where a cache is, only that one is too close...

  14. We are working on the initial features involved in this request. After pressing the "Report new listing" button on the Report a Cache page, the system will check to see if another cache is near the coordinates for the new listing. If so, it will warn the user that the cache is too close to an existing cache.

    CAPTCHA will be implemented for cache submission to reduce automated attempts at finding the final coords to nearby multis/mysteries. The feature will also include a link to search nearby geocaches using the coordinates provided. The user can still submit the cache listing after they see the warning.


    This, to me, is great news. It will save the reviewers ALOT of time.

    I think it will be a disaster. Ever hear of the game battleships? Be a lot of people playing battleships to "solve" mystery caches. They can CAPTCHA 'til the cows come home, some folks are very patient. I will archive my mystery caches if this is implemented.


    Really? I think the people smart enough to use this as a technique, can probably solve most puzzles.

  15. From the text that appears when you create a challenge or when a challenge gets archived:


    The location of a challenge should be directly related to the action. "Take a picture of yourself with the Eiffel Tower" is location-specific, while "Take pictures of the night sky in Seattle" or "Find this/a geocache" are not.

    It's not worded very well, since "this geocache" is location specific, but the challenge guidelines do appear to frown upon challenges that require people to "find this geocache" or "find a geocache."


    As well, these same guidelines frown upon challenges that require people to go to multiple locations:


    There should only be one location where you can complete the challenge.


    I knew this was going to happen...


    From the context of the OP, it appears that they are talking about a Challenge Cache, what you are referring to is a Geocaching Cahllenge.


    While Gecaching Challenges (read "Virtual Cache") might frown on a requirement to find caches, Challenge Caches are the opposite. Everyone I've done requires you to find a certian number of caches or caches that fit a specific category, I've got two myself...


    If the OP is still paying attention, could you clarify what you meant?


    They said they were searching the map, since challenges don't show up on maps I'm pretty sure that they were talking about a Challenge Cache...

  16. I think this option already exists by making use of the Collectible status for any owned trackable: If the trackable owner marks their item as Collectible anyone who sees it will have only two log options - "Discovered it" or "Write Note".


    MrsB :)


    There is one situation where I can see it as desirable, in the case of a tracking bug. If you want to be able to dip your tracking bug into caches you have to keep it in your inventory, if it is in your collection it is not available to dip into a cache. On the flip side, if it's in your inventory it is then availble for other cachers to grab if they somehow get the tracking number, although I think this would be rare.


    Perhaps the OP is talking about being able to keep a bug in your inventory and selecting an option where it can only be discovered.

  17. Just an FYI for fututre reference. It's usually better to post a question like this in your regional forum for whatever area you live in. People from all over the world read this particular forum and chances are small that any of them are going to know the cache you are talking about without some serious searching. Better to ask the locals in your area that may have done the cache you are referring to. Have Fun!

  18. Hi everyone. We own 1 cache and it's been a blast for our family to watch and maintain it. But something just came up that I'm not sure how or what I'm supposed to do. I noticed our cache mentions that a trackable was placed in it over a month ago, but it's never moved and it's still supposed to be there. So when we went to check it out today, we confirmed that it wasn't there.


    How am I supposed to handle this situation where the cache description notes there is supposed to be a trackable there, but in reality, there's none.




    Go to the trackable page and on the right hand side of the page is a drop down window that should be labelled "Mark Iten missiing" Click go to do so. You as the owner of the cache page that the trackable is listed in have a right to do so as the cache owner.


    First though, it would be nice for you to check the logs after the one that states that the bug was dropped to see if anyone mentions removing it. If someone does, you can write them a nice note asking them if they removed it and to please log it out of the cache. If they do not respond or otherwise log the tracakble out, you are justified in marking it missing.

  19. The other reason I delete old DNF reports ... I look at the found-versus-not-found statistics on a given cache as another indicator confirming/contradicting the difficulty rating supplied by the CO. In that case, it seems more reasonable that I should delete a DNF if I find it later.

    Your first sentence makes perfect sense to me, but the next one seems to contradict it.


    I'm a professor; I contradict myself all the time. :D


    (Which is somewhat stimulating, actually ... learning a new set of cultural conventions is fascinating ...)


    So are you a Sociology Professor?

  20. I'm a little surprised that someone like Keystone or mtn-man have not weighed in on this. Usually when there is a "my cache is not being reviewed" thread they will take a look and see if they can figure out what the problem is. They are both mod/reviewers that can find an unpublished caches and will give there insights as to why they think it's not being published or what the hold up might be. I could be wrong, bu tI think it is true even if the release this cache box is unchecked, you say yours is (and I don't doubt you) so I would think they would be able to find it.


    Maybe that's part of the problem. Some weird database issue is keeping the reviewers from seeing it. Maybe if you just copied and pasted the descrition and reposted a new cache it would get released right away...

  21. I hate those cachers that drive in the carpool lane going 2 MPH less than the speed limit with their toddler in their car seat as the only other occupant of the car just because it's "legal".


    Does it only bother you if they are cachers? :huh:


    No, But I was trying to stay OT... :ph34r:


    LOL! Yeah, kind of like those "Any Geocachers That Have a Tatoo That Says, 'MOM'?" threads, huh?


    Yeah, you know like the cachers that take more than 10 items in the express line at the grocery store. Those cachers drive me nuts too... :laughing:

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