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Most respondents have indicate their lack of favour for "ugly buildings" based on concerns of subjectivity. I am not getting terribly excited about the proposal as such, but I do think there is some room to "cut some slack", in other words, can't the original suggestion be taken and a more viable suggestion be put forward? At the end of the day, Waymarking has to be something to enjoy, something that is maybe "fun". It is about marking the coords, usually via GPS, of the location of interesting things around the globe. "Ugly Buildings", as such, are perhaps an excellent subject for Waymarking. Can we "cut some slack" (maybe) and see if there is a way around somewhat "subjective" category suggestions? Would an "unusual building" category be an appropriate entry point with a category submission requirement being that the submitter point out an unusual feature that might not be common. So, while beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that unusual building that has been inspired by a dead cat might be pointed out without treading on "ugly" sensitivities. I suppose if I had thought of it at the time, then a hotel in Tay Ninh, Vietnam would have been a classic. There was a gap of about 50mm in the building between columns and verandah rails which suggested that the building was seriously unstable and moving! Yet other sections nearby were neatly finished off. Quite bemusing! I would suggest that the OP reconsider and refine their proposal and outline how they might achieve a satisfactory category description. It is the unusual that needs Waymarking, and I don't think that the "unusual" in its many guises should be stifled.

My main GPSr is the now older Explorist XL. I doubt that I will replace it until it truly falls over dead (nearly happened several times!). It handles geocache .GPX files relatively well although it truncates hints which can be a problem and can handle a maximum of 200 caches in one folder. But if I download waymark .GPX files, I find that the screen is blank and allegedly the folder is empty (but a check with notepad shows there is information). It seems that the name of the waymark is not coming through in the same way as a cache. This is a pity because on a recent trip to Vietnam and Cambodia, I could only guess at what might have been waymarked already. Some of my waymark visits will be "grabs" without photos, but - I hope - sufficient log notes to prove I was there. I have been able to create waymarks by using the "MARK" POI feature and work from there. Is the problem with downloading .GPX with the slightly different website at Waymarking or is it with the GPSr? Should I invest in an IPad 3 or a Samsung Galaxy tab and have these available as well when Waymarking? My mobile phone is not a "smartphone" either, being a somewhat ancient samsung flip phone. Any thoughts?

Now here is another one, that you good people may be able to help with... Can I use an image (photograph or drawing) "legally" ie not infringe copyright if I nominate the source (and of course I am referring to the use of a fraction of the original work)?

Perhaps waymarkers could be more "professional" and use a formal referencing technique as used in academic papers. As an example, I might say something like "Silverquill" (nom de plume) [2012] commented 'All quoted material must be clearly indicated.' [1] I am trying to write a paper at present and have found "http://www.citethisforme.com/website" to be quite useful, along with "http://www.harvardgenerator.com/". These were the first two that came up in a google search, and both are free to use (but at least one pleads for donations - but I would suspect that this is aimed at writers who expect some reward/return on their efforts). The reference for the above quote from "cite this for me" is [1] Forums.Groundspeak.com (2012) Citing Sources - Groundspeak Forums. [online] Available at: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=297259 [Accessed: 15 Jun 2012]. A book reference (also from "cite this for me") might look like Olofsson, U. and Lewis, R. (2006) Handbook of Railway Vehicle Dynamics, Ch5. Tribology of the Wheel – Rail Contact. CRC Press. As we don't want to unnecessarily burden hobbyists of varying abilities and enthusiasm, I would suggest that a formal reference be encouraged, but not mandated in a category description.

In the upper left of this forum, there is a link to geocaching.com . Can we have a link to Waymarking.com please?

Probably the most important things to pack for a day's Waymarking are a roll of toilet paper and at least one bottle of fresh water. You never know how and when you can get caught out without the "essentials".

I have just approved a waymark in "Silhouette Public Art" called " Starting Fourth" in Calgary, Alberta. A part of the long description says "It says, in a whimsical manner, that apart from slight surface differences, all people are cut from the same mold." Ok, now how closely are we all related? Most would probably say "not related". But have a look at the following logic which I know has been touched on by others at other times. Now, how many biological parents do you have? Two? Right... how many biological parents did your parents have? Two for each, that is four grandparents? How many biological parents did they have? Two each, making eight great grandparents. So you get the drift. Starting at you, we have a geometric series based on powers of 2. You are 2^0 = 1, parents are 2^1 = 2, grandparents are 2^2 = 4, great grandparents are 2^3 = 8. Ok, how about we say an "average" (just a working figure) of 4 generations per century. Now keep the geometric series going backwards in time for say 1000 years. We will reach 2^39 = 549 755 813 888 . The current world population is around 7 000 000 000 - a somewhat lesser figure. According to http://desip.igc.org/populationmaps.html in 1350, (more recent than our 1000 year scenario) and the world population was just 350 000 000. So where is the logic wrong - or are we all much more closely related than we might have thought??

If it is a trig station, then http://www.Waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=18b359b3-84e5-42f9-bbcf-c40ae533c962 (ie the Waymarking category for Australian trig points) is the place to go. If it is a survey disk, http://www.Waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=f3b5d2a8-9cbb-4d0a-9d55-519f2aed7cc0 (Australian/NZ Benchmarks). If you are not familiar with Waymarking, it is the "little sibling" of geocaching, supported by Groundspeak and is for all those points of interest that are around the countryside. It is effectively a huge database of "interesting objects" depending on your interests. It might be worthwhile having a look at. Your Username and Password (and Premium membership)are the same as for geocaching.com . cheers

Haddon's Corner would be eligible for inclusion in the Aust/NZ Benchmarks category as would Poeppel, Cameron's and the Surveyor-General's Corner(s) (wouldn't they??). I suppose the feature of the corners is there remoteness and difficulty of access. At best visits would be few and leaving a cache at site isn't the best idea because of maintenence issues. The "corners" in Australia are rather famous survey marks, but in my being a bit dry, I believe we already have a category (eminently suited for the purpose) for their inclusion.

i created an earthcache (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=3879651b-4ef7-4047-b1c3-4cda0e578e33) with the assistnace of http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMA8J3_1871_Congregational_Church_Parramatta. That waymarks ownwer helped immensely with the idea of "reverse engineering" the code atteched and using it to develop my earthcache. Maybe the results are too similar, but was happy with the outcome.

There has also been the occurrence of a listed waymark changing hemisphere's. I will be a little bit parochial now - please bear with me. Tuena would know of the Iriquois helicopter on the pole just on the left hand side of the highway as you cross the Shoalhaven River going south. This is a listed waymark and one time it decided to disappear from the local area waymarks. I eventually tracked it down to somewhere between California and Hawaii in the middle of the ocean after both S and E coords switched to N and W . This was well after it had been successfully listed!