no luck. I don't know if anyone is following this saga or not, but this will be the final installment. I got the Topo 2008 and it does not have nautical navaids. The Garmin website has a free download of the Marine Points Database, but its for the older legend and vista and it won't seem to work on my Venture HC. Since I have to buy a specific nautical CD, I'm going to return the eTrex and pick up the cheaper explorist 210.