Virtual Question in General geocaching topics Posted December 19, 2004 · Edited December 19, 2004 by woodsters Any virtual can be turned into a lame offset cache, or part of a lame multi cache, or yet another micro. Or the person could put some time and thought into it, and actually enhance the cache experience. To one an offset could be lame. To you, one should put an "X" amount of time into it. Both being subjective. Neither is better than the other. I remember people also saying that caches, espcecially unmaintained ones, shouldn't be removed or archived if they are still there and functioning. it's all subjective. Because someone else may want to place a cache there that will maintain it and make it a better cache than what is already there. What about a virtual and a physical one in the same place! As we've discussed over and over before about virts being completely seperate from actual physical containers with logs. Virts can be something else and not counted into the totals, or at least into a different total. Yes, like the benchmarks.... I think that will be the only way to bring the twon on different sides of the fence on this subject, in agreement. Or better yet, require that every cache be physical. No ifs, ands or buts. Allow each current virtual owner a set amount of time to turn their virt in a physical cache. If they don't, then they get archived and open up the doors for others to make it happen, if it can be done. Then hey, if it can't, then make it an offset cache. Include a list of coordinates in the cache for the person to go and virtually check out. Make it a requirement of the offset cache with the proof and the owner can approve the "finds" or not. Even for those on NPS lands.