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quote:Originally posted by seneca:The "Terms and Conditions" might save us from having to look at their "prized" pictures. That works for me. DON'T POST YOUR FAMILY REUNION PICS OR Groundspeak WILL OWN THEM! -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by Jomarac5:She's mentioned in this thread that she's a lawyer and she's giving an opinion on legal language here that is read by others reading this thread that is, perhaps not good advice, personally, or professionally. ***** Irrelevant. She can tell people to stick their heads in jet engines, but if they aren't paying her as a lawyer for that information, it doesn't matter. Just try suing a lawyer for bad legal advice he gave you for free. My ex-wife's family tried this regarding an inheritance and they learned the hard way. If there was no money passed, no formal agreement, any advice given by a lawyer isn't considered "legal advice." -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by seneca: Its not just being sued that you have to worry about. As discussed on the other thread, are you aware that, pursuant to the Groundspeak Terms and Conditions, once you submit material to this site, over which you own the copyright, (including photographs), you will have permanently lost the legal ability to grant any other party an exclusive license to use it? For 99% of the people out there, it really doesn't matter. They aren't going to capture a picture that will storm the art world with it's stunning beauty, amazing originality and power to touch the soul. However, for the few things that may pop up, the artist/author should already know better. We're on a diary site that was carefully chosen for it's "hands-off" policy regarding copyright. As it is stated, only the author has control over use, the diary has permission to feature it online, but that's as far as they lay any claim to it. My original post contained a lot of "typically" and "most" regarding content for terms and use of a forum. If you post something you feel is art, it's your "loss." That's not going to happen with the typical Forum User. -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

Yup, it's getting nasty out there. My sister-in-law's guy is doing the helicopter pilot thing over there in Prineville, I believe. Not sure if he's gone over yet We were hoping he wouldn't have to go, as we're approaching a group vacation.... -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

I never do. Typically they cover acceptable use, which any 10 year old can pretty much figure out on their own. Fortunately I'm not just any 10 year old! Mostly they justify mods' and owner/operators' right to ban members and delete or lock threads. Since you cannot really put a monetary value on posting on a board, you're not likely to be sued for failure to comply with the terms. If someone tries to, I suspect the first judge it goes before will stamp "Frivolous Lawsuit" on the file and charge the lawyer and his client with contempt of court for wasting everybody's time and tax money. -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

You could assemble the pictures into a coffee table book with the title "Forest Butts and Misc. Tidbits." -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by Titus2_13:Whew! Thanks! When I posted that I thought, ya know, somebody just might try. We will be going into the rainy season here so you wouldn't want to leave sunny NM. Besides, I'm out of work and living off the wife's art....www.thenorwoodstudio.com What are you looking for? Pretty stuff. Her work shows a very unusual texture, almost a marble-like quality to her clouds. -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by Titus2_13:Sorry, I actually read some of the earlier posts and there was some mention of working smarter not harder. But I wouldn't expect anyone from Moscow on the Willamette to actually READ any of the forums.... Cracking wise from the socialist capital of Oregon? And it's not armpit odor! According to the folks up here it's the smell of MONEY. What are you looking for? I don't strictly fit in here in Little Beirut. I don't like coffe OR beer, for starters.... Unfortunately money smells like a$$. -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by HappyFrog: quote:No, a benchmark is never going to get you laid. Geocaching probably won't either. I'm doomed. Thank God I'm married! You need to read this http://ubbx.Groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4016058331&m=29060408 if you don't think that you will get something out of Geocaching. HappyFrog Boy is this going to swing off-topic.... I'm not sure you can "get lucky" with your spouse by definition, since your spouse is kind of obligated to sleep with you anyway, hence the "Thank God I'm married!" addition. It sort of takes the whole luck thing out of the equation.... -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors: I would have to disagree somewhat here. I imagine that there are some virtuals that may be of the type you described. I believe there are some great virtuals with that "historic merit" in which you stated. I guess a virtual of plymouth rock would not hold any historic merit? If you get a "great view" while there (just as in a benchmark) then that is an added bonus. To be honest, a benchmark is a glorified virtual that may be there or not. That may be accessable or not. There's no verification process of claiming a benchmark either. I did the silver sands one because it was there at the event. It was neat to actually see one. I've looked at the bm pages locally and the few I did look at were not found. The descriptions I read were that they were on private property. I can understand the thrill of going after them and finding them. The chance that you won't find them is enough determination to keep trying. Just as a virtual, I can imagine that some people do not actually find some virtuals or give incorrect info when verifying them. It's all a matter of opinion as to what you liek or prefer, but I think the above interpretation of how a benchmark is better than a virtual doesn't stand... Brian It's all opinion, of course. You are correct in that some virtuals have historic merit, but my meaning was that if benchmarks are part of the physical setup of state/county/etc. lines, they are all of a historical nature. Do they have personal meaning? That's up to the person pursuing or not pursuing the benchmark. At the very least, you will have to rely on GPS accuracy combined with your Spidey Sense to find benchmarks. Virtuals? Hit and miss. Someone pointed out in an earlier that if you can see the virtual cache target from 200 yards away, it's not really much of a hunt. I agree, but that's because I like the "hunt" portion of the hobby. Do I think that virts, benches and caches are 3 separate things, and should be "counted" differently? Yup. Do I think that all 3 have merit? Yup. I would agree that virts and benches are NOT caches, in the truest meaning of the concept. They are certainly "geo" though, as they require coordinates to hunt down (unless they're a "sightseeing tour"). I find the benchmarks to be more interesting in concept than virtuals, but that is 100% opinion. Part of this may be that I grew up in a house in Portland with a benchmark on our curb, and wondered about it for years. -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

Strange thing, I found that my NRA membership got me better rates at motels and car rentals than my AAA membership or Weyerhaeuser corporate discount rates. Maybe GeoExpress will be even better! -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

Actually they're listing it for $379.99, with free shipping. -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

I prefer "people," as in "Hang on, people are coming down the trail." The muggles/aliens thing seems a bit forced to me, but whatever works, I suppose. -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by Titus2_13:I never should have opened this thread, I have no complaints. But since I'm new to geocaching I'm trying to learn all I can. From this thread I learned that lots of folks better start working harder because smarter doesn't seem to be an option. Wisdom from the Armpit of the Columbia River.... -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

Benchmarks are closer to actual caches, virtuals are closer to sightseeing. With benchmarks at least you're looking for a particular spot (more difficult than finding "a great view of the city!"), one that actually has some historical merit, even though it's far less romantic or sexy than "a great view of the city!" No, a benchmark is never going to get you laid. Geocaching probably won't either. Neither will amateur radio, rocketry, paintball, fixing computers, playing Dungeons and Dragons, collecting Star Trek stuff or watching reruns of Dr. Who. I'm doomed. Thank God I'm married! -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

Is it the V or the deluxe version that includes the software? -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

I think running a contest is a great idea, and meets the same spirit of the board as free caching/hiking staff that was given away a few weeks ago. Particularly if TeamShuey is paying for the ad to run where we are all going to be seeing it anyway. Why not have something featured that one of the users here designed? -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

Do you remove your jewelry? Why? I keep my rings and stuff on, but my wife doesn't. She takes everything off. Is she ashamed of geocaching with me? -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

- She complains about there being too many virtuals in the area, because now she can't place all the neat stuff she bought for caching while she was out shopping. - She justifies buying new Tupperware, not for kitchen use, but for caching purposes. - She asks to go to an Army Surplus store to look at ammo cans. - Every time you drive by a tree, bush, embankment, pier, etc. she says "That would be a good place to hide one." -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

We took my wife's 3 year old niece out "treasure hunting" (the difference between "cache" and "cash" was too hard to explain). Unfortunately we only found a huge wasps' nest at the cache, which curtailed a lot of real heavy searching. Took her back to a cache that we knew was easy to locate and almost certainly there. "*GASP!* TREASURE!" She will now bug her Mom every waking minute about taking her out to find more treasure. "Mom....Mom....Mom....Mom..." My job is done here..... -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by carleenp: When I was in college, the sundress with army boots look was in style. I think it could work in an off-beat sort of way! www.gothcaching.com just begs to be created.... -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by TeamJiffy:...I like my feet to be like software? -Jif Unstable, with lousy customer service and lots of bugs??? -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

What do you wear when you go geocaching? -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

I suppose if we post here we'll be laughed at like all those human shields were...... -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!

quote:Originally posted by GroundClutter:Come on guys, have faith! -------------------- You have the right to defend yourself, even when geocaching!