BlueDeuce

It's up to the cacher owner to set the difficulty level, including whether or not they want to give a hint online or from personal contact. The thing is to be consistent, whether it be a newbie visiting from another state or your best friend needing a find that day for a challenge attempt. Be nice to your friends for once.

I agree, and I apologise for veering off the topic with my semi-related observation, but what I was more referring to is the very strong and judgemental opinions *some* have on finds logged by *others*. One always has control over what one logs, oneself. That's okay. I happen to be one of those people you are referring to, at least in someone's theory . A Puritan as TOZ likes to say. The first step is admitting it Serious question then.... is it all about the numbers? And comparing numbers between different geocachers? I like my numbers and I like my numbers to mean something. If I have to spend time explaining a find or asking if I should, even when I sign the log. Probably not worth it.

I agree, and I apologise for veering off the topic with my semi-related observation, but what I was more referring to is the very strong and judgemental opinions *some* have on finds logged by *others*. One always has control over what one logs, oneself. That's okay. I happen to be one of those people you are referring to, at least in someone's theory . A Puritan as TOZ likes to say.

On a specific cache? It is best to ask the owner. They set the difficulty and it is up to them to lower it. If I had a cache that I wanted to be hard to find and everyone else was handing out the answer, there wouldn't be anymore cache. That's my answer to the previous posters. More to you. It takes practice to get your geo-sense. Start with the lower D/T caches cuz even those can be tricky at times. Talk to your local club and see if anyone is willing to go on a lunch-hour search just to show you a few cache hide styles. You might be surprised on how many people jump at the opportunity to go caching.

Of course it's about a number. It's also a matter of justification, more or less. I think the less justification I use to claim a find is more the better.

My experiences so far. Planned an event at a restaurant that had a buffet. I told them ahead of time that we were coming so there were no surprises, probably twenty people (I'm thinking they would know to add a little extra to the buffet). I walk in with nine people and they say "Oh, with twenty planned we have to put you in the banquet room with you own buffet and a dedicated waitress". Oh no. Fortunately a half an hour later 17 more cachers showed up almost the same time. Whew! Another event at another place, 35 cachers planned to attend so I get the banquet room. 75 cachers show up and suddenly the place can only get one cook in that day and they still have to serve the regular Saturday night crowd as well. It took hours for everyone to get food Another event at a pavilion, Potluck. I bring a main dish - sloppy joes and everyone else brings whatever. That worked pretty well. What is the best way to feed people?

Why is that not an answer in the cache logging FAQ?

By the way, sincerely, happy caching.

Actually I'm surprised he hasn't jumped all over the majority of posters by telling you that you can log any cache you find regardless. I'm fairly sure my head wouldn't explode if you did log the caches, but then you did ask our opinion.

As a premium member you can add them to your ignore list so they don't show up as caches you need to find.

Even if I gave it away it's still my cache that I placed and take pride in seeing it still in play. Putting it in my "I went out and found a cache' column wouldn't add a thing. In my opinion.

I heard about it on the radio and signed up ten minutes later. Other people have shown interest in what I do and whether I explain it or show them, it's typically nothing more than "That's interesting". I think either it bites you hard or not at all. Some might pick it up but after a few short months of dropping micros they drop out themselves. I will say that most of my family, friends and acquaintances will ask about my geocaching adventures from time to time. And that is appreciated.

Let me tell you something... People don't want to find anything other than the real thing. Consider that when deciding to release or re-release a traveler. bd Unless I missed something here, it looks like most of the people in this thread don't have a problem with it when they're clearly marked. I'm "people" and I like them both so please don't speak for the rest of us. We're quite capable and fine with speaking for ourselves. I am curious as to why you consider it completely normal to send out a TB marked clearly as copy of the original, but not a coin. They're both impressed pieces of metal with a design on them. They both look similar although one is clearly marked as a copy. I've even seen hundreds over the years without any metal tag at all, but with only a code inscribed, written or marked on it and all these seem to be fine, too. Why is this completely normal and accepted for every Traveler except coins in your opinion? You don't need to mark a TB as a copy and even if you did, no one would care. It's just something you picked up. Not a real coin is ok? I know who's posted before. How about they step up and tell me I'm wrong.

Let me tell you something... People don't want to find anything other than the real thing. Consider that when deciding to release or re-release a traveler. bd Unless I missed something here, it looks like most of the people in this thread don't have a problem with it when they're clearly marked. I'm "people" and I like them both so please don't speak for the rest of us. We're quite capable and fine with speaking for ourselves. I am curious as to why you consider it completely normal to send out a TB marked clearly as copy of the original, but not a coin. They're both impressed pieces of metal with a design on them. They both look similar although one is clearly marked as a copy. I've even seen hundreds over the years without any metal tag at all, but with only a code inscribed, written or marked on it and all these seem to be fine, too. Why is this completely normal and accepted for every Traveler except coins in your opinion? You don't need to mark a TB as a copy and even if you did, no one would care. It's just something you picked up. Not a real coin is ok? I know who's posted before. How about they step up and tell me I'm wrong? bd

My 1450, a discontinued model allows me to maintain Favorites and gsak files separately. Paperless cache detail with nearby cache alerts. Favorites and pq details are two separate things completely. And yes I can delete all favorites at once and re-load fresh detail via mapsource.

If you own it or have permission from the owner it is perfectly fine.

They do it for caches so why not?

Ah. I was a little worried about you. It sounds like a very interesting idea. I think you should do it. I suggest your attitude be that if it gets lost before it finishes its journey, that tells you something. In the much less likely case that it finds its way back to you after a year, you can decide then what that means. If you're really ready to let it go, you might want to consider attaching the tag to it in a way that cannot be undone, thus making its inherent value beyond being a TB much less. Like a trip to Mt Saint Helen that only the tag returns?

Let me tell you something, when you lose a travel bug you can re-release and change the name, photo, mission, and attached-traveler (as long as you don't remove the logs of the people who assisted your bug). Coins? People don't want to find anything other than the real thing. Consider that when deciding to release or re-release a traveler. bd

My advice to anyone regarding travelers is - Never release anything you are not willing to lose, but that actually might be the point. Here's my thought. Purchase a geocoin that you carry to amazing and favorite places. When you get near a river, chuck the ring. Happy caching!

Understood. If I have the time I'll run a new PQ rather than relying on even a two day old query.

Hey Karhu Kasha.I always appreciate anyone who is willing to respond. Few and far between these days. bd

Yes, sometimes people can sneak through a bogus cache. Other times a cache can be under-rated for its difficulty level. Did you discuss this with the local reviewer? bd

(grumble, grumble) (curse under my breath) Travel bugs anyway.

You'd think they could lower the price a bit.