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Oh, darn. Well, thanks for the definitive reply!

I think it's a courtesy to ask the puzzle cache owner for help, and let them decide if, and how much to give. The cache owner would likely be quite frustrated to see the method of the puzzle explained on the forums. Good luck!

I've got an idea-can someone tell me if this would be "legal"? I hide my micro as close as I can, within easy walking distance, but within the guidelines. And, yes, I know some people hate micros, but this is an extremely difficult downtown area to try and squeeze in a full sized cache......The micro would have within it the coordinates for the Tide-E-Bowl. To claim a find, you must find and sign the micro, and e-mail me a certain bit of information that can be gotten only by viewing the sculpture. This way, I can still feature the sculpture on the cache page, because, again, the story is the thing.

Well, the problem with the bonus cache idea is that then I'd be placing a full sized cache just anywhere I could find a spot, and in our quaint little historic downtown, I might have to go a ways. How many people will then make the effort to go see this thing, I don't know. A puzzle might be possible....... I might just have to "flush" the Tide-E-Bowl idea, or reduce the writing so it can be listed on the other site. It's not my writing, though, and I hate to butcher a good story with my editing.

Then wouldn't I have to make it a 3 stop tour? I can't start out with the coordinates of the artwork, even if the seeker would just be going there to count something and move on, can I?

Thanks, but the other cache is part of an interesting series and at a worthwhile spot. The problem with moving it to the 528 foot distance is that there are some natural obstacles that make it impossible to do so and remain within sight of the bizzare sculpture. One might easily do the other cache and miss this sculpture, though, it's behind a building and doesn't catch the eye til you get up close. This structure is officially called the Tidal Bowl, or Tidal Clock, but it is locally known as the Tide-E-Bowl. The cache would be pointless without the story that goes with it.

I can't seem to think my way through this problem. There is a 1/4 million dollar art structure in my town that is simply ridiculous, and I thought it worthy of a cache. I placed a very ordinary micro....the interest was not really the cache itself, but my desire to share this structure and the hilarious story behind it with other cachers. Unfortunately, it's 245 feet from another cache, and was rejected. The story with the cache is pretty darn long, and if I tried to make a multicache the page would get way too cumbersome. I have two other sites nearby with similiar unusual appeal that I have not placed yet, but they come with their own stories and pictures, and I can't see combining them. If I have people go to this art structure and then go 300 feet farther to get the cache, I would still have to list the art structure's coordinates, and it would be rejected again. I considered putting the cache on an (alternative site), but the story was too long by their standards and I couldn't use it all. How can I make this cache work? Thanks in advance.

Well, I don't understand the Graffiti in the Park (or much else), but I've got a picture! Thank you!

OK, somebody please show me exactly what to write. When I up loaded the picture, it was given the name Tide_bowl3.jpg Geocaching has assigned it this URL: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/519d108a-2...99f06fb7179.jpg

Thank you Henki. I'm still messing up somehow, all I get is a little white box. I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong, but I don't know what.

I've done this before, but it's been awhile, and now I can't remember or figure it out. I have uploaded a picture onto a cache page, and would now like to insert it into the body of text. What is the code I use? Thanks in advance.

I really like the suggestion to waypoint your car. I never remember to, but it would have helped a time or two....

I was curious, and asked my 8 year old son what time quarter 'til 3 would be. He very sensibly replied "three quarters past 2!"

The best part of that one was the call to air traffic control. The pilot calmly stated that at 16,000 feet, off his right wing, there was a man in a lawn chair with a gun. Thanks, Sue Gremlin! This story always makes me collapse in giggles. And, it's true!

Thanks. I think I've overstated my case here. It's a totally easy cache, no climbing or anything invoved. 200 feet from your car. Flat ground all the way. The only question is proximity to the cliff. I do appreciate the posts concerning more challenging caches; and they make me more certain that mine is perfectly fine.

Double darn! I live in a historic little town, and I'm planning a multi that involves looking at the dates and names of old buildings. I suppose someone could get so engrossed in caching that they would cross the street without paying attention and get run over. Isn't disaster possible with most any cache? With life? I had a brainstorm and wrote to my local approver. Told her the exact details about the cache, and will follow her advice. It's a really pretty view! If you come, don't fall off the cliff, OK?

I certainly did bring up the liability issue, but I'm thinking safety is the more important concern. If I make it really clear on the website that children and pets need to be protected, and that the seeker need not put themselves in danger to retrieve the cache, could I leave it there with confidence? Again, there are WAY more tougher caches out there; this one is easy. Only a total lack of focus would get one in trouble.

(Sorry, it was Miller Lite) Lawn Chair Larry 1982 Honorable Mention Confirmed True by Darwin (1982, California) Larry Walters of Los Angeles is one of the few to contend for the Darwin Awards and live to tell the tale. "I have fulfilled my 20-year dream," said Walters, a former truck driver for a company that makes TV commercials. "I'm staying on the ground. I've proved the thing works." Larry's boyhood dream was to fly. But fates conspired to keep him from his dream. He joined the Air Force, but his poor eyesight disqualified him from the job of pilot. After he was discharged from the military, he sat in his backyard watching jets fly overhead. He hatched his weather balloon scheme while sitting outside in his "extremely comfortable" Sears lawnchair. He purchased 45 weather balloons from an Army-Navy surplus store, tied them to his tethered lawnchair dubbed the Inspiration I, and filled the 4' diameter balloons with helium. Then he strapped himself into his lawnchair with some sandwiches, Miller Lite, and a pellet gun. He figured he would pop a few of the many balloons when it was time to descend. Larry's plan was to sever the anchor and lazily float up to a height of about 30 feet above his back yard, where he would enjoy a few hours of flight before coming back down. But things didn't work out quite as Larry planned. When his friends cut the cord anchoring the lawnchair to his Jeep, he did not float lazily up to 30 feet. Instead, he streaked into the LA sky as if shot from a cannon, pulled by the lift of 42 helium balloons holding 33 cubic feet of helium each. He didn't level off at 100 feet, nor did he level off at 1000 feet. After climbing and climbing, he leveled off at 16,000 feet. At that height he felt he couldn't risk shooting any of the balloons, lest he unbalance the load and really find himself in trouble. So he stayed there, drifting cold and frightened with his beer and sandwiches, for more than 14 hours. He crossed the primary approach corridor of LAX, where Trans World Airlines and Delta Airlines pilots radioed in reports of the strange sight. Eventually he gathered the nerve to shoot a few balloons, and slowly descended. The hanging tethers tangled and caught in a power line, blacking out a Long Beach neighborhood for 20 minutes. Larry climbed to safety, where he was arrested by waiting members of the LAPD. As he was led away in handcuffs, a reporter dispatched to cover the daring rescue asked him why he had done it. Larry replied nonchalantly, "A man can't just sit around."

WAY off topic, but nobby.nobbs, have you seen the Darwin Awards? Specifically the one about the guy with a six pack of Coors and helium baloons and a lawn chair?

Well, thanks all for the input. It's not an evil micro. To me it's pretty obvious. (Guess it would be, as I put it there.) Mr B says pull it, so I suppose I must. It's really not dangerous - believe me, we're not named the Bumbling B's for nothing, and I certainly didn't fall off..... I've been to other caches that have scared me a little, only because I'm such a klutz. I know who would likely be FTF, and I could wait and get his opinion, but that's kind of a cop-out, 'cus I know what he'd say. He'll climb any mountain and swim mighty rivers with his GPSr between his teeth, and he'd say I'm being ridiculous. The cache is pretty much a 1 /1 unless you take 3 steps the wrong way, in which case it becomes a 5. Or an 86, as it were.....Darn.

Well, as for the replies so far, I AM worth nothing, so that's not a problem. I'm more concerned that nobody gets hurt, and I don't think anyone should. I expect that I'm just paranoid. As far as moving the cache back a bit.....I would do that, but this place, to my eye, is devoid of hiding places; and I'm only hiding a film canister. Yet, the view is beautiful, and it's a spot I'd like to bring others to for their own enjoyment. There is a bicycle track that gets closer to the edge than the cache.....

OK, it's been a rough couple of years for the B's. Every time I've been brainless enough to say "everything bad that could possibly happen, has", something worse comes along. So, with that snakebitten mentality, let me ask - If I have a cache placed near the top of a high bluff, And there's no fence, and if one has to get within, say 3 feet of the dropoff to grab the cache, and if the cache can absolutely be retrieved with no danger to the participant.....how strongly do I have to word the cache description? Anybody could come along here and do something incredibly stupid and go over the edge, but even though I have a fair amount of vertigo, I have no problem with the cache. I'm thinking it's perfectly safe, but with my recent track record, I'm envisioning the worst. Thanks!

Thank you to all who responded; I appreciate the help. Maybe the TB will show up again, but in retrospect, it WAS an odd encounter. Not that I'm against odd encounters, but I don't usually lose TBs. ~Karen

Thanks, I hope this will be quick. I had a TB, a white Jeep, that I held for a long time, as I wasn't geocaching. I eventually handed it over to a person who said they were a fellow geocacher. Since then, I have reason to think that the TB may now be inactive. Well , ok, gone. Thankfully, it wasn't a personal TB. At any rate, I can't figure out if there is a way on my cache page to indicate the fact that it is likely out of circulation. I think I've seen this option before, but I can't seem to find it. Thanks~ KB

Too bad this a geocaching forum, and not an appropriate place to discuss contracters. I cancelled Spookfest when I was told I was $10,000 short of saving my home. There gets to be a point when you're so used to bad news, you can't be shocked anymore. It might as well been 100 thousand. The end of the story(Does anyone remember Paul Harvey?) is a little different. There still will be no Spookfest. Watch out! By October '06 I will have had two years to think about it. Oooh. I like the thinking part. KB