Hate to chime in late on this particular thread, it was my suggestion actually to put more caches in this place that probably got this whole thing stirred up. I know the four caching rogues, consider them very good friends, and have spent many many many happy hours on the trail with them not to mention many hours spent at events, both CITO and not over the years in Chittenden, Addison and Washington Counties. If anybody doubts their commitment to our sport, please doubt no further. All of them have produced some of the best caches going, are committed to making sure our great sport is always seen in the best light and anyone of them would drop what they are doing to help a fellow cacher out. Not only that but they spend countless hours volunteering in various ways in their own communities. They always act as ambassadors to our sport. Between the four of them they have over 4000 finds and 200 hides. I for one consider myself lucky to have met them through geocaching.