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Artemis&Apollo

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  1. To all those who adamantly defend Groundspeak’s map changes:

     

    Don’t get hung up on Google Maps and don’t assume that everyone wants to use Firefox with Greasemonkey to get around the problem. All the people are asking for is the return of functional satellite/aerial maps via geocaching.com using whatever browser they choose to use. There is nothing unreasonable about that request.

     

    I think many of us are not defending GS; rather, we are criticizing google. The request IS unreasonable because of the costs involved. While none of us know the exact cost other than the lackeys, all you have to do is do a google search and you'll find other companies are dropping it as well because the cost cannot be justified at this time.

     

    I'd love to see GS add an a la carte option for those who want it. But it might be difficult to do since GS couldn't charge a flat rate as their costs vary (I think?) with usage. Cachers who really want this option and can't be bothered with using a better browser could pay up front, and get charged whatever GS gets charged for each map view. People who use the google maps more would get charged more.

     

    The nice thing about the openstreetmap now is with companies such as Apple and FourSquare moving to it, there will be more users updating the maps and making them more useful. This doesn't help the sat/aerial views though.

     

    Apple drops google maps for iphoto

    Why are companies defecting from google maps

    Foursquare criticized for dropping google maps

    FourSquare says bye to google maps, joins openstreetmap movement

     

    Obviously Apple/FourSquare are the two major names making news. Apple has enormous pockets and decided to drop it, but they have other reasons to want to break from google anyway.

     

    ChileHead;

     

    You are doing exactly what I asked you not to do. You are hung up on GOOGLE MAPS. I said “all the people are asking for is the return of functional satellite/aerial maps via geocaching.com using whatever browser they choose to use”. Nowhere does that statement say GOOGLE MAPS.

  2. To all those who adamantly defend Groundspeak’s map changes:

     

    Don’t get hung up on Google Maps and don’t assume that everyone wants to use Firefox with Greasemonkey to get around the problem. All the people are asking for is the return of functional satellite/aerial maps via geocaching.com using whatever browser they choose to use. There is nothing unreasonable about that request.

  3. So Groundspeak finally realizes and appreciates the availability of risks of using an open and free API, eh? <_<

     

    I fixed it for you. If anything it should help you to understand and appreciate that ultimately APIs are neither "open" nor "free."

     

    I appreciate that someone at Groundspeak is watching this thread, however a comment on what is going to be done to fix the issue and an idea of a time frame would have done a lot more to restore my faith in the organization.

     

    Don’t hold your breath on the time frame. Maps have been an ongoing issue for over two years (going back to the 1/12/2010 release at least). Just look at the past release notes.

  4. So Groundspeak finally realizes and appreciates the availability of risks of using an open and free API, eh? <_<

     

    I fixed it for you. If anything it should help you to understand and appreciate that ultimately APIs are neither "open" nor "free."

     

    Wat?

    So what are you saying here? That OSM is neither open nor free? Or that the Groundspeak API is open and free? :blink:

     

    I think he is saying that if there is an expense that might affect Jeremy’s bottom line it is not acceptable regardless of what impact it might have on us members.

  5. Hello guys, if like my previous post - there's new version of Grease Monkey script that contains also Google terrain map, Google hybrid map and standart Google map is set as default, so you don't have to change it in upper right corner. It also contains czech "Amapy.cz" but I guess you don't care... ;) You can also disable/enable map in selection window.

     

    http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/125938

     

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    So if a greased monkey can make this work why can’t Groundspeak?

  6. There is one thing that I am very disappointed in that no one has mentioned. That is how Groundspeak handled this mapping issue. Google announced its intent to charge for high-volume usage months ago giving its users time to adjust. Groundspeak slipped a note into a forum a couple of hours before making its change giving its users no time to adjust.

     

    Learn to communicate with your users Groundspeak! You will save everyone, yourself included, a lot of headaches. You finally learned to announce outages with that yellow banner. Expand that idea to other things – like this map change.

     

    Example (banner): A significant change is forthcoming. See the following forum thread for addition information and discussion (link).

     

    Your feedback will help us adjust to the change and our feedback will help you implement a change with an understanding of the user community’s concerns/wishes.

  7. A number of people have problems with the new ‘beta maps’ when it comes to Pocket Queries and it was well documented in the old voting-system that is now gone.

     

    All we want is the ability to view only our PQ caches on an interactive map the way would could before the beta-maps took over.

     

    This could be accomplished by simply adding a link to the PQ page that would use the old maps for that PQ

    ( "http://www.geocaching.com/map/default.aspx?guid=xxxx" ).

     

    I am requesting that you provide that functionality. It would be a very easy change and would make a number of people very happy.

     

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  8. I also have this problem. I have not run any queries in three days and nothing I have submitted run since the website came back up has run - including one that has never run before.

  9. I'm sorry, but that's not a realistic request. There were almost 2000 topics in the Geocaching.com section alone and it would represent a huge effort on our part to manually copy the ideas over here, even if we only focused on the "top" ones. Besides, all of the ideas that received a reasonable number of votes have already been entered into our internal database, which is what the real decision making is based on. If there is some issue that you want further discussion on, feel free to post it anew here.

     

    Ok then, one question: has the problem with pocket query maps been entered into the internal database? It definitely had a reasonable number of votes.

  10. It seems that all the effort we went through in the past to enter suggestions, vote on the items, and provide comments has now been lost. There are items that I am interested in from the now closed FEEDBACK page (I guess it was called Uservoice) that I do not see here. It’s like they never existed.

     

    Let’s not lose the work that has already been done. Merge the top items from the previous FEEDBACK approach with this new approach. DECLINE them if that is Groundspeaks decision but let’s not pretend they were never there.

  11. If you have a good hide people will say more about it !!!

     

    That's all there is to it !

     

    Oh, Berry, I don’t think we are on the same page about what a good log is. I looked at your logs for your finds sorted by the most favorite points and found these logs. Which ones do you consider a good log?

     

    Found it

     

    Got it

     

    Been here been inside about 100 feet colddddddd plan on going back in soon to see how far it / I can go

     

    Found this one a wile back just never logged it

     

    Needed the hint to find it. Great idea.

     

    Found it

     

    Got it

     

    found with chick

     

    Found it

     

    Found it

  12. Let's face it the game has changed and it's not going to go back. You can blame it on, or credit it to, the smartphone.

     

    Personally, I think it was a better game back when we started in 2007. The caches were better, the locations were better, and the logs were better. Caching was a day trip and people savored it. You planned a hunt, loaded the GPSr, and went out for the day. In our case, we often took a picnic lunch with us. At the end of the day we posted our logs from notes we made in a paper notebook.

     

    Today, for the growing majority of people, caching is a detour in their everyday life. They see what's close to where they are, find the cache, hit FOUND, and go on with their business.

     

    It's just a different game and the logs and P&G caches reflect that.

     

    You never shared your picnic lunch with me, Doug. :mad:

     

    The best was at Shaar's Bluff in late November a couple of years ago. It was the first time we passed on Flying Leap of Faith. Sorry you missed it.

  13. Let’s face it the game has changed and it’s not going to go back. You can blame it on, or credit it to, the smartphone.

     

    Personally, I think it was a better game back when we started in 2007. The caches were better, the locations were better, and the logs were better. Caching was a day trip and people savored it. You planned a hunt, loaded the GPSr, and went out for the day. In our case, we often took a picnic lunch with us. At the end of the day we posted our logs from notes we made in a paper notebook.

     

    Today, for the growing majority of people, caching is a detour in their everyday life. They see what’s close to where they are, find the cache, hit FOUND, and go on with their business.

     

    It’s just a different game and the logs and P&G caches reflect that.

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