This is also my first post, I'm not exactly a newbie cacher, this topic drives me nuts people need to do more research before they spout off like this. My father who is also a cacher and I were just talking about how long it would be until something like this started happening. One of the best things I think would can do to people like this is show them the other sides of geocaching that they are not seeing, CITO being the prime example, in my experience most cachers are more than willing to help clean up the environment not deystroy it.