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First - THANKS to all who posted above about my specific search. Sorry but no real news to report. 1) I went to hunt for the south mark - there was no good place to get into the woods. AND... it was very lush and overgrown already so my guess is I wouldn't have had much success. Will figure out getting to it one day. 2) North stone - drove around up there - very developed. No luck. Not giving up - just shelving for awhile to try for others............... Thanks again everyone! So... now the thread is back to Meridian Marks in general!

Thanks 68 and everyone. Will be searching for the south stone today around 1:30. Will report back tonight.

Holtie: Can you tell me "how" to do this: "try to keep the Longitude reading on your GPS as close to the center mark's Longitude as possible." what am I looking for/at on the GPS? These marks were set in - I think - 1898 (give or take) - so based on that - is your analysis still the same? I just wonder how careful they would have been with all 3 marks - since they had a specific goal in mind with the instruments of the day.

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68: Utilizing your coordinates as a starting spot when I get on sight - how big an area would you suggest searching? Is there any reason to think we are missing something and could be really looking in the wrong spots?

Is this unit still for sale?

Is this unit still for sale?

Is this unit still for sale?

Yes - the mark is in the center of the pic. I Checked for the original mark set earlier but it appears gone(hence the one you see in view that was set to be permanent.) I anm looking for marks that would look exactly like this one. I plan to search for the south mark on Saturday since the area you have it in is undeveloped.

Here is the middle stone's coordinates again - N 38° 21.229 W 081° 37.582 John can you break down how to do what you are saying alittle more for me as I am not very good at this stuff.

Thanks DaveD. All meridian mark discussion has moved to its own thread. So.. I brought it off topic - now bringing it back ON topic: USGS marks.

DaveD posted these coordinates in the USGS thread: Coordinates for 1 mile north are -- 38 22.099 / 81 37.582 Coordinates for 1 mile south are -- 38 20.359 / 81 37.582 Computed using NGS utility FORWARD. So I found a different description of the marks (note south is 1/1/2 miles while another publication said 1 mile) Here it is: "Three stone posts determine the meridian. One is a sandstone set 75.25 feet south of station in lawn of Mr. Savage's house; one is set on a hill about 1 mile north on land belonging to Jefferson Savage; and one is on the side of a hill about 1/1/2 miles south. Each post has a copper bolt in the center of top." There is another I will post later - but not much difference. The Jefferson Savage home MAY be on Elmore Ave in Charleston.

Kayak: Certainly happy to post the the whole description - will do so from home later when I have it in front of me. I hope someone can read between the lines because I am having no luck. Xyzee: I have tried that. Here in this county the surveyor doesn't have an "office" etc so it is a challenge tracking him down. The folks in the map room have no idea about it. I have emailed the county surveyor in hopes he will let me have access to any and all notes from the late 1800's/early 1900/s but no reply as of yet!

John: Yes I know - and to be honest I didn't really notice the "about" term till after. I was suprised when i re-read a description i had read time and again and then noticed it (and wow - so vague for a surveyor!) Thanks for your coordinates, I am sure somehow they are a helpful part of this puzzle - but to date - still stumped! Kayak: I can later today when I get home but I don't think it will offer any insight. What are your thoughts?

Moved some of this from the USGS thread as it more rightly belongs here. (from other thread) If anyone knows how to do this - I need the coordinates (in same format for use in GPS) exactly one mile north and one mile south of: N 38° 21.229 W 081° 37.582 John wrote back on other thread: Coordinates for 1 mile north are 38° 22.159' & 81° 37.509'. For 1 mile south they are 38° 20.352' & 81° 37.558'. The description I am going by from 1902 says “is about 1 mile north” “is about 1 mile south on the side of a hill” It concludes: “The county surveyor knows the locations of these monuments.” Any thoughts anyone?

Thanks - I am now even more perplexed reagrding the marks I am looking for as the south coordinates are in the middle of the river when the mark should be on a hill. Thanks for helping though.

Semper - On a more serious note - thank you for serving our country. My family appreciates your service!

Temper and Geo - What you both forget is that geocaching is a hobby - just for fun - pay 30 bucks or not - Groundspeak owes you nothing. If it is SO hard to use this site - then simply don't geocache. Find something else to occupy your spare time. Problem solved. And Geo - you are right - I use it less in the finds Dept. BUT - I use it alot more then you in the hiding arena - not to mention benchmarking. So we use it differently. Heck - if you want me to complain - I could write every day how the benchmarks haven't been updated in YEARS! I don't complain though - I just work around it, thankful Groundspeak imported them at all.

Need more help - 1) I THINK I started a seperate thread on meridian marks but can't find it, any thoughts? Would it have been deleted/merged for some reason? 2) If anyone knows how to do this - I need the coordinates (in same format for use in GPS) exactly one mile north and one mile south of: N 38° 21.229 W 081° 37.582 3) Thanks EdrickV - next time I am up that way I will use your suggestions!

In reply to this comment: "A properly designed data base, index structure, and public-facing search interface is." This is worth reposting: "if you don't like the way things go on this sight and have issues with Groundspeak - go start your own geocaching website (or find another that is better.) Good luck with that.

Uh no. So you want to complain because you pay a whopping 30 bucks a year to help Groundspeak with this website? How about you just don't re-up when the time comes?!!!! Premium membership isn't a guarantee of any functionality. I pay it and basically use none of the "membership" features - and you don't see me grumbling of being ungrateful.

I checked caches on map in this area and all is functioning just fine!

To those who are super critical - here is a thought - if you don't like the way things go on this sight and have issues with Groundspeak - go start your own geocaching website. Good luck with that.

Based on the negative tone of some posts above, it seems to me like many here make this hobby MUCH too difficult and take it MUCH too seriously. If you want to do a search, stick to the basics and you will be fine (you know - putting in the zipcode, then using the "map it" feauture.) I have been geocaching for awhile now and NEVER had to search for a cache by name - NOT ONCE! If you don't like how Groundspeak handles things - cancel your account and use another geocaching sight. OR - you could always revert back to traditional letterboxing. I for one am appreciative of all the behind the scenes work the Groundspeak folks do for the sake of MY recreation. Thanks all!

1) As for the mark at the hairpin turn - I saw a culvert - but a box culvert it wasn't - a huge metal pipe it was. 2) Still not the greatest using maps etc or figuring out direction S. NW etc etc) while onsite. 3) can't really remember which site/program I used at home to look - I do it so infrequently. I know I know - sort of a novice in some aspects still!