Waterboy

We gave ourselves new overnight backpacks for Christmas, and we are anxious to get out and use them. Jonboy, thank you for the write up, but I only did one backpack geocaching trip. It was our first backpack in about eight years, and a wonderful experience. For overnighters in Pennsylvania there are many trails. You may want to start looking at Keystone Trail Association website. A couple of our comments on the trails closers to NY/NJ. - Thunder Swamp - Closest to your area, we hiked here only once and were not very impressed. - Pinchot Trail - Nice area but not at all rugged. Good for new backpackers. I believe there are caches in the area. - Loyalsock - Great area and trail. There are at least two caches, both placed by Team JackQuest in the area. (We only found one of the two.) - Old Logger - Great area, but unfortunately the state forest service has asked that the caches be removed. - Golden Eagle - A little short for a backpack, but a very pretty trail. - West Ridge Trail - I never did this one, but the wife did before we met. Everything I heard about it is good. Have not checked for geocaches along this trail. - Black Forest - Jonboy, I would like to tell you more, but unfortunately know very little about this one. I would gladdy write more but would like to ask some questions. - Are we talking about a one nighter or longer? - How long a hike (in miles) are we talking about?

We would like to find caches that would normally include an overnight stay. Can anyone make recommendations? We are particularly interested in those caches in the northeastern corner of the US and southeastern Canada, but would be interested in overnight caches anywhere. We have already found Arrgg! Refugee Cove in Nova Scotia. . We know of Our Apollettgies , also in Nova Scotia, and It is High, It is Far, It is Orange in Vermont. We are now preparing for overnights in the warmer weather.

May congratulations arrive for you in all of crayola’s colors.

Jonboy & Brian, we would love to hike/cache with you. How about meeting at the parking lot where the White Bar Trail crosses route 106. I will email you a map of where I suggest. Since we will have more than one car we do not have to make a loop hike. Since it is between a 2 ¼ to 2 ½ hour drive for us we would like to meet at 9:30.

Had vacation time I had to use or loose. The weather was just too good to miss caching today. Picked up Ramapo Torne cache today, then stopped by my No hints, NY Style and left a Canadian geocoin stopped by my No Hints, New York Style and left a Canadian Geocoin and our trademark bottle of water (next to cache). Will look for the cache at Stahahe High Point, and others nearby on Saturday. Anyone want to join us?

Sounds good if you want and old man and old woman going with you. Will sending you email separately. Harriman is a long trip for us, but worth it. Seems like all the snow has melted in our corner of Pennsylvania (unfortunately).

Jonboy, caching is always great. The only reason we were not caching in the NY/NJ area today is that we picked up three caches in Pennsylvania. All three were within a few hundred yards of the Delaware River and Jersey. BrianSnat - Congratulations on your new job.

Had a problem with winter caching. We found one after less than a five minute search yesterday. It as an ammo case frozen into a cramped corner. Took 15 or 20 minutes to remove it. (We loved every minute of it.)

Congratulations to Lungboy and the future Lunggirl. Please read this cache description.

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There are plenty of AT caches. Below are a number that we have been to and have not been mentioned yet. First in Pennsylvania: Starbuckian Dream Stony mt. Stash* The General* Ghost Town Cache Five Hundred Steps The Real Swatara Path?* Not the Swatara Path Oh Danny boy No Hints #2 No Hints Cache In New Jersey: Dreamcatcher* Rocky Mountain Way PointPLMD* Limpidity-2: ^^^ High Point ^^^* Covert-002* New York/New Jersey Multi-State Multi-Cache** In New York: Island View* Anthony Wayne Trails* * = Not within 200 yards of AT, but within 0.5 miles ** = One or more components of multicache is near AT. Caches have been listed in order of South to North. [This message was edited by Waterboy With Wife (www) on November 29, 2002 at 01:42 PM.]

CHANGE IT. Geocaching is for fun. Use a name that you like.

For bigbill6, We were amazed to read your age and medical description. We have found five of your caches and believe that your difficulty rating are accurate. You have some nice hikes getting to them. We really enjoyed them. It takes us 2 ½ hours to drive to the Silver Mine or Anthony Wayne parking areas in Harriman. Harriman is a great park, and your caches make it even better. The long trip is worth it. Only wish it was closer to home.

Leave them. I notice that one of these caches has 8 accounts watching it. Although you do not know who it is, eight people are enjoying the cache, removing it would disappoint them.

For Ekitt10, If you are looking strictly at cache density probably the best place in the Northeast is Central Park in NYC. So far all the responses have been from hikers, and they are looking for a good hikes as well as caches. That includes us. For those in New Jersey & nearby New York, we agree with BassoonPilot and BrianSnat, they have mentioned some great areas. Of those we like Harriman the best. Unfortunately the closest parts of Harriman are just over a two hour drive from home, while Lambertville where Ekitt10 recommends is about 45 minutes. One great area in Pennsylvania is in State Game Land 211, in Lebanon, Dauphin and Schuylkill counties. It is loaded with old mining areas considerably larger than those of Harriman. It has interesting rock formations like China Wall and Boxcars. Lets not forget that the Appalachian Trail goes through SGL 211. Our personal favorite in the seven states plus DC that geocaching calls the Northeast is the High Peak Areas of the Adirondacks.

We live in an area with great quantity of caches. There are 1,410 caches within 100 miles and 149 within 30 miles. We have found well over 100 off these caches Last September we vacationed in the Adirondacks in northern New York State. A location with only 244 caches within 100 miles and 18 within 30 miles. For quality, three of our best five caches were within the Adirondacks, where we found only six. Of course there are many different definitions of quality, and I am sure few cachers will agree with ours. If we were to move, should we consider good quantity or good quality? Added thought - Best quality cache Arrgg! Refugee Cove in geocache friendly Cape Chignecto Provincial Park, Nova Scotia, Canada.

In the late 1960s the US Army and Marine Corps found out that the boots that were excellent in most of the USA did not work well in the wet swampy conditions of Vietnam. The Vibram soles that were terrific on rocky mountains and hills of this country, filled with mud quickly and made for slippery conditions. The two of us use top quality LL Bean boots. Boots that do not let water in unless it gets over the top. This was another problem in Vietnam, once the water got in, it would not go out. I have never hiked in Florida, but my impression is that there are many areas that the conditions are close to what Vietnam is. I think it would be helpful if you told us more about the type of terrain that you hike in, before I would say anything about boots. The wife agrees with BrianSnat, she loves her Cresta boots. I am sorry, I do not know the name of my model and I can not find it listed on www.llbean.com.

To 1NatureMom, Caching in a four season area is GREAT. Each new season brings its own joys and beauties. They also bring in advantages and disadvantages. While each cache is different, and have their own challenges, most caches are easier to find in fall, when you have better GPS reception. This is particularly good for rookie geocachers. Advantages of late fall – Better GPS reception, cooler better temperatures for serious hiking, less activity by insects and poisonous snakes. Disadvantages – Shorter daylight hours, leaf on ground may be slippery. It is rare that leafs will hide a cache. Now I will dream of the first snowfall of the season. In February I will dream of long spring hikes/backpacks combined with geocaching. Come June I will look at caches that have good swimming holes nearby. Please enjoy the late fall. Added note for 1NatureMom. I spent about 1 month this summer inside with lyme disease, and understand some of your feeling about getting out.

Congratulations. The wife and I recall meeting you and one of Cache Ninja’s lieutenants while hunting in Harriman.

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What is the proper way of dealing with snow cover and geocaching? I guess that depends on the cache. Mxyzptlk, sounds like you should remove your cache. Particularly if you are worried, it just is not worth the concern. I do not believe that a “hooked” person would even give a second thought about letting a little snow bother their caching fun. Walking, skiing, or snow shoeing, going out in newly fallen snow is one of the great pleasures of hiking and caching. One of our best caching experiences was at Island View by the Magster (Woof!). We enjoyed this one in just plain hiking boots. Now as special for BrianSnat. Just to remind you of what we did on finding your Swamp Thing cache in the snow. Question for Mxyzptlk – How do you pronounce your name? Brian – Your two latest pictures suggest that you are spending to much time working on your fantastically good looks. Or is it possible that this is the result of eating too much eggplant?

FALL FOLIAGE. We like it best with water, particularly near a lake or pond. Our personal favorites: 1. Sunfish Pond, near the Dreamcacher cache, already mentioned by BassoonPilot. 2. BrianSnat is right about his own Terrace Pond cache. 3. There are many good pond/lake caches in Harriman, but our favorite is pm|_. Particularly nice if you use the streamside trails coming in from Reeves Meadow. ENJOY IT FOR THIS SHORT SPELL.

In our backpacks there are always extra trash bags, they are part of our geocaching gear. Recommend others do the same. My first remember hiking in Harriman State Park with my parents, it was about 1950 and when I was six years of age. I hiked there regularly up until 1973 when I left the area. In 1993 we started to hike in Harriman again. Having seen Harriman for over a 50 year period I believe there is less trash now than there was prior to 1973. There are definitely more people, so some of them must be educated about trashing out.

Our numbers are: 1. 145 physical caches, 2 event caches, 1 virtual 2. Average difficulty - 2.09 Average terrain - 2.47 3. Found caches in 10 states and 2 Canadian provinces