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  1. A lot of movies were made in the Moab area. Make sure you visit the museum in Moab. It has a lot of history about movie stars that worked in the Moab area to make the movies you enjoyed. It surprised us when we visited the museum years ago.
  2. Sounds good to us! We're off caching tomorrow Lord willing. Spring can come early as far as we are concerned!
  3. After reading this thread and going over my own recorded finds I came up with two recorded double finds on a single cache. It appears that cache owners can throw us curve balls on this subject. On Cache #1 it appears that instead of archiving his cache and creating a new one the cache owner re-cycled his cache page by changing the cache name to BTP II with a new cache in a new location with the same GC#. The cache somehow showed up on my radar screen and I remember being quite surprised and confused when I discovered that my name was already in the logbook. Cache #2 has a cache owner creating a 3 stage multi in town with a logbook at stage 3 and an optional cache at step 4 with a logbook. The optional cache is a killer hike in the mountains far removed from the first logbook. I wish the cache owner had given the optional cache its own GC# but he didn't. Most cachers that do this cache only do the first part because " If you find Home Plate you are really a dedicated Cacher and deserve the Grand Slam". I think a lot of problems would be solved if we could only log one find per GC# and caches like the two above were never approved. That being said are these examples valid 'exceptions' or should I change my second found it to a note?
  4. I think most of us here would agree that one shouldn't log a find on their own cache. The reasoning is that you really didn't find the cache because you already knew where the cache was. Helping out a friend by replacing his cache with permission is admirable but if it was me I would log a note instead of a find because I didn't really find the cache. I've been offered a 'go ahead and log a find' on several caches that I've logged DNFs on. These particular caches were indeed missing and the cache owner 'gave me permission' to log a find. Each time I e-mailed the cache owner back and politely declined. I told them that I would rather wait until the cache was re-placed and would then return to find and sign the logbook before claiming a find to the world. Perhaps I have a few less smilies caching this way but I prefer to cache honestly so that I have only good memories to think back on. It's amazing how easily cachers can justify "earning" their simile. Its really a very simple black and white fact. You either found it (and signed the log) or you didn't. The note log is for logging in the 'grey' area.
  5. It's a find. The only exception might be if it's a 5 star 'challenge cache' where you are expected to climb a pinnacle or rappel down a cliff etc. I personally wouldn't claim a find on a 'Mt Everest' cache that I found in the parking lot.
  6. Another tool is bookmarks... If you ever make it to Colorado this bookmark might prove usefull.
  7. Honesty is always the best policy. Cachers that claim false finds are only hurting their own 'Geo rep'. Seems like my parents once told me that if a person will cheat on a small thing then they probably will cheat on on big things too. Don't loose any sleep over it... all you have control over is your own 'Geo rep' and the good feeling you get for doing the right and honest thing.
  8. Agreed. I too would prefer that the cache owner make separate caches in a series instead of multiple finds on a single cache with an optional smilie. The same goes for when a cache owner decides to move his cache. I prefer that the cache in question is archived and a new cache is listed in a different location. It's most confusing to go after a newly listed cache and find your name already in the paper logbook. If the cache has moved a mile instead of 50 feet isn't it a new cache? All this confusion could be easily avoided if the cache owners in question would do things differently.
  9. I have done this cache (GCF32F) and have logged the two smilies due to the separate and optional part of the multi. (It's the only time I've logged a cache twice) Most would consider this 'Grand Slam option' as a second cache if they did it. Even the cache page warns about earning the extra smiley: "If you find Home Plate you are really a dedicated Cacher and deserve the Grand Slam." Believe me when I say a numbers ho would be crazy to earn Tahosa's extra smiley because it's an all day killer hike in the mountains!
  10. That's offset somewhat by the fact that in order to get pq's to load into GSAK, you have to be a paying customer in the first place. Maybe THAT'S where Groundspeak is missing an opportunity. Another level of membership that would allow that kind of access for another $20 or $25 per year. Third party apps could then pass identifying info to Groundspeak to verify the person making the request is an authorized upper-tier member. I'd gladly pay the extra money myself just to have the PQs update the archive status of a cache in GSAK. (Yes I know about the workarounds)
  11. Here's a follow-up to my last post... I bought a box of 42 gallon Husky Contractor Clean-up bags to test them out. The bag is 3 mills thick so it is tough and could stand up to quite a bit of abuse in the woods. It was also large enough to fit over my large winter coat with ease but still not big enough to use with your knees up in a seated position. I tested an emergency poncho out in the same seated position and it worked fine. I sealed the arm holes on this hooded emergency poncho and set up a test stand for this mini heated shelter in my backyard today. I found that if I was seated on my backpacking stool I would be 44 inches tall so this test dummy was made 44 inches tall. I used an indoor/outdoor thermometer with the probe located about 4 inches below the hood opening. The thermometer read 25°F without any heat. I then added one candle in the mini shelter and the temperature rose to 37°F in a few minutes. I then added a second candle and the temperature rose to 45°F. This 'heated mini shelter' could save your life if you were unable to build a full size shelter and fire for whatever reason. I plan on ordering one of these cool Nuwick candles for my winter day pack. Looks like a very useful and versatile candle that could be used in the mini shelter with up to 3 wicks burning. I also am thinking about purchasing some of these matches. Anyone use either product or something similar?
  12. A plastic garbage bag? How interesting. Is this used just to keep things dry? Catch water? I'm very curious, please elaborate. Ah, this brings back memories of my caving days in Alabama. I was a serious caver that explored and mapped deep caves requiring up to 20 hours at a time in cave temperatures of 58°. Part of my equipment that I carried was a large black plastic garbage bag with arm and head holes cut in it. I caved wearing a T-shirt and work shirt over that and stayed warm as long as I kept moving. At the bottom of deep pits each climber took 30 minutes to an hour to climb out. If you had 3 to 6 cavers in your group this could turn into a very long chilly wait for your turn to climb. What I would do is put on my garbage bag 'poncho' and squat down with my carbide light under the bag. I stayed toasty warm! I don't cave any more and the only time I carry a garbage bag is when I elk hunt to carry out hamburger if I get lucky. I don't think the garbage bag would be big enough to fit over heavy winter clothes anyhow and who caries a carbide lamp? You guys did get me to thinking though... If you had a broken leg you probably would have a hard time building a survival shelter or even a fire. I'm going to add an emergency poncho (full size with hood) and more long burning candles to my winter day pack.
  13. Well I decided to start out my new year with a deep snow survival test using an emergency blanket. I've carried these things in my packs for years but never took one of them out of the packaging. I've read that the cheap ones (like I own) are small, paper thin and tear easily. What about fire making after Colorado's 2006 twin blizzards? What about finding a snow buried cache? Sounds like a fun test! I usually avoid snow so I was dreading this deep snow scenario. What I found out right off is the value of snowshoes. I was expending enormous amounts of energy gathering firewood. I couldn't find cedar in the area so my second choice was dry pine. Most of the fuel wood was out of sight so I had to rely on what I could find above ground along with the kindling. The fire was started with only matches since that is at least the minimum fire making tool every woods going hiker always takes with him. (Right ?) The Coleman emergency blanket was indeed small for use as a shelter and also was real thin. I set it up as a windbreak and reflector to warm my backside. I used the pebble trick when tying off the blanket instead of punching tie off holes. (I've read the blanket tears easily) I used rocks to hold down the back of the blanket...Worked only until the wind kicked up... Had to tie down the back with cord also. This setup seems to work well in low winds. (Use a rock shelter or snow cave in blizzard conditions) More story and pictures:
  14. Thanks Clan Riffster for the positive and informative post. Practicing survival skills is a smart thing to do because some day you might need those skills. You're right in that starting a fire is the easiest part. I've observed a lot of campground fires that looked great at first but soon died out because the wrong type, size and placement of logs were piled on the kindling. There is a science to firebuilding and when its cold and wet outside the task gets even harder to accomplish. Here is a picture of some of my fire making tools: I usually carry matches, Bic lighter and a couple of fire sticks when hiking or Hunting. (Have gunpowder available when hunting) When backpacking I usually carry my Primus Stove and fuel bottle. (Yep it uses gasoline weightman) In my caving days I'd have a carbide lamp and small Hexamine stove with me. (Hexamine is a great fire starter) In a survival situation one uses the tools he has on hand at the time. I had fun with my Grand kids on a 'practice survival' camp-out a few years ago. We built a working solar still and practiced making fires. In the picture you will see the fine mesh steel wool and 9v battery. The wool tinder can also be easily ignited with a magnifying glass or sparks from flint. What's in the pill bottle you ask?... Sawdust soaked in lacquer thinner or turpentine. (sparks from flint ignite this tinder instantly) We also gathered Pine tree resin to make crude stinky candles. They had a grand old time and hopefully learned a few things. What did they like the most you ask? Why the steel wool, magnesium shavings and gunpowder! Boys will be boys after all.
  15. Criminal, Thanks for the thread. Seems like some are picky with my post. Sorry if I was OT. I'm a woodsman that has spent most of my life in the woods and do enjoy anything and everything about the outdoors. I use to be a Boy Scout when I was young and have fond memories of starting fires with 'sticks'. In later years I've continued my love of the outdoors by learning and experimenting with many methods of making a fire using glass, gun power, batteries, carbide, flint etc, etc. It's nice to know how to make a fire using these 'emergency' methods and I've made fire using most of them. It's one thing to start a fire under optimum 'experimental' conditions vs wet and real world conditions when your cold and want a fire quick. Fuel, Oxygen & heat are the magic three often expressed as kindling temperature of a type of wood used to make a fire. It's much easier to start a fire at an ambient summer temperature vs a cold winter temperature as you well know. I've tested the 'theory' in different conditions but usually use the easier methods because they are quicker and more practical to use in non-emergency situations. When I'm hiking or Elk hunting I carry a fire starting kit because if the need arises I want to make a fire quickly and efficiently. The same practical efficiency applies for the fire at camp.
  16. I can understand the OP's frustration. Nobody seems to get his point. Umm, I do get his point about 'practical vs theory' and will pit my fire starting skills against any woodsman. I just added some easier and more practical methods of starting a fire quickly under wet conditions to contribute to this thread. If that's a problem we can just talk about rubbing sticks, using steel wool and a 9v battery or the multitude of other obscure methods of starting a fire that most people will never use under adverse conditions when they need to be practical and make a fire quickly.
  17. Fire starting under adverse conditions is indeed a challenge compared to the conditions most of us experience while camping or hiking when the weather is a bit more favorable. How do you start a fire when it's been raining for a week and everything is totally soaked? What about if it's extremely cold and most of the normal Boy Scout 'fuzz stick' techniques won't work because you're shivering and your fingers are numb? Here's a couple of tips I learned from reading a Professional Guides manual published by Herter's Inc... Don't gather wood found on the wet ground but rather use dead wood still attached to a "sheltered tree' where water has not had the chance to soak in as well. You can also use a hatchet or axe to access the dry 'heart wood' of a log. Use the dry interior of the log to make dry kindling and 'starter logs' for your fire. In a hurry when conditions are wet and cold? Make a "Canadian Lantern". I've used this trick a bunch of times when my fire was the only one going in a campground under wet conditions... Prepare your campfire pit with a hole in the dirt that a tin can can be inserted into. Fill the tin can with sand or dry dirt then fill with gasoline. Insert the can in the hole flush with the ground then build your soon to be fire with the driest kindling available. (note: gasoline like gunpowder will only burn slowly if not confined and must be used cautiously only in an open fire-pit) The Canadian lantern will produce a steady flame that will last for quite a while and dry out your kindling and start your fire under wet conditions. Once your fire is going stand your extra logs on end around the fire at a distance so they will be pre-dried before putting them on the fire.
  18. Left my GPSmap 76S for Santa instead of cookies... The plan worked! He left me a brand new GPSmap 76CSx. I've already loaded The Proper's cool custom Geocaching icons into the unit. (Thanks ThePropers!)
  19. Oh, give me a break. Not just you, but all of the Eternal Defenders of Waymarking. This is well past the "I don't understand" phase and into the realm of intentional misunderstanding. I mean, it's not like the difference between Waymarking and virtuals hasn't been expressed what seems like a few hundred times by many different people. Some of them have been quite clear and eloquent. Look, I will try to explain it one last time. Not likely to make any difference, but maybe another concise statement of it will finally get through. A geocache is an implicit challenge: "I have hidden X; can you find it?" The best virtuals were challenges. The challenge is what draws me to geocaching. Waymarking, on the other hand, is about sharing. "I've found a cool spot. Come look at it." A completely different gestalt. While sharing spots is nice, it doesn't excite the same kind of passsion in me that the challenge does. Now, I understand that many caches are not, in fact, real challenges. That's not the point. The point is that caching is set up as a challenge, and Waymarking is not. People have tried to express this in many different ways, including the loss of "mystery," etc. I appreciate that you have tried to build a Waymarking category that captures a little of what is missing, but, in my opinion, it will not work, because Waymarking is simply not about challenge. And it can't be made that way. The Eternal Defenders of Waymarking flock to every thread of this kind, explaining in detail how Waymarking is just like virtuals, until somebody points out that they are not the same, at which point the EDW group explains that Waymarking is not the same as virtuals, but better, and then somebody else points out that you can't do a PQ of waymarks, at which point the EDW group explains that Waymarking is still incredibly new and that its deficiencies are somehow all our fault. The whole process is astonishingly predictable, and incredibly tedious. Oh, and for the record, please listen to this very, very carefully: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NUMBERS! I agree and support everything said here except ... I know that Numbers are important to many many many cachers! I also agree but see the handwriting on the wall. You can't fight Geo Hall so new virtuals are a thing of the past. I will miss them. (No I'm not going over to Waymarking to do them for a lot of reasons already stated in this thread) My head is also not in the sand so I too realize numbers are important to most cachers whether they want to admit it or not.
  20. Good idea. It would be fantastic to be able to bookmark profile pages of cachers... The bookmark would just be a list of cacher names that you could click on and it would go to that cachers profile page. Much better idea for not taxing the servers!
  21. I'm always up to an adventure. What did you have in mind? I live in Longmont and even have Dec 22 off.
  22. Well I guess the now archived Abbreviated Abseil cache would fit the bill for me: The cache was located partway down the cliff: But then again... driving in Denver traffic might be more dangerous!
  23. n0wae holding a YJTB by his custom YJ Jeep.
  24. Twice now I've had our men in blue catch me red-handed caching. I'm sure glad it wasn't this cache!
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