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April 27 by DropNewCacheGetSmilie (3766 found) Didn't know the cache was missing and was searching when a previous finder called and told me where the cache had been located. Had a hide-a-key in the car, so replaced the cache. Hope it stays! Cache Disabled April 27 by Cache Owner (80 found) Checked this morning and the container is missing. I will try to get replaced soon.

... Maybe I had a "little" to do with the broken back window, but not the tie rod. It is posts like these - and my own memories of such fun events as having to limp out of the woods in a Jeep with a broken axle (stopping every few feet to jack the vehicle up and push in the tire) - that make me not want to rent the Jeep from Avis or whoever. Does this group travel with an on-board welder? I have a professional welder in my 4x4 club and he just does this on the trail. Yeah, I think I saw RocketMan crawl under my jeep just before I had that tranny leak last year... I think we need to keep an eye on him this year!

Perhaps this thread will help you.

Started out honest. Had a relapse. Then came clean in the end.

Phoenix, In making my track library I have discovered several interesting facts... Some roads on Topo maps are simply not there any more. Some mistakes were made on others, a few never existed and a whole bunch have been moved. When I first noticed that my actual GPS track left the Topo map road years ago I backtracked to the new intersection and found where the old road (now closed) faintly continued as printed on the Topo Map. Johny Park FDR118 is a prime example of this fact. The West end of the road use to intersect the county road .4 miles East of the Parachute Road T.H. but now intersects the county road .5 miles to the West. What happened is that the Forest Service closed the part of the road that ran through private property and re-routed it on F.S. property to the county road. I see this re-routing also done due to other concerns like erosion or sensitive areas that need to be protected. Another observation I've made is that some of the FDR numbers change over time. I've got some old Forest maps with road numbers that don't match the numbers on the ground today. Then there's the dreaded road gate that suddenly pops up closing huge areas of Forest Service land. It's all in a constant state of flux.

Indy Jpr, Just found your threads last night and loaded your map sets into MapSource for a look see. Wow, what a pleasant surprise to see up-to-date data and 40ft contour intervals! I'm a member of the Trailridge Runners 4x4 Club and have been mapping Colorado 4x4 roads for years. Would you like the road track library that I've made? (Could you add it to your maps?) I use Fugawi to map the 4x4 roads but my program can also export the data as Lowrance, ESRI Shape, and Text files. Having all the 4x4 roads overlayed on your maps would be fantastic! Here's a sample of some N.G. Topo work done on my GCXDDH 4x4 Cache. (click on Topo Map) There are also other links like TrailDamage that have overlayed trails on clikable maps. To get them all of these trails added to your CO map set would be something to die for!

Hello, I've been working with Clyde trying to figure out why GC18RGJ crashes GPSBabel when I try to export caches from GSAK to Fugawi. Apparently the placed date of this cache in a PQ is 1901! Clyde is going to let the programmers at GPSBabel know so they can address this on their end. I thought Groundspeak would like to know about it too. Does this mean this is the first Geocache!?! Thanks guys you do a great job!

I have a friend who lives there. Perhaps he can help you.

I've planted several high altitude caches in Colorado. This one is over 13,000 feet high and This one is over 14,000 feet high. The bookmark on the last cache lists several more of Colorado's 14er caches.

A FTF prize is nice but for out of the way caches I generally look at the quality of the cache page. If some time went into making the cache page look nice then I figure the same consideration went into the cache location and placement. Enjoying the hike and scenery is just as or more important to allot of cachers as to what we find in the cache.

I have my GPS set up so that N is always at the top of the map screen. With the compass *off* the map screen pointer should respond to the direction you are walking. (The compass should be off if you want the map arrow to *respond* to your direction of travel) If you are not walking and want to take a compass bearing turn the GPS compass on and use your compass screen. The arrow will point to magnetic North just like a magnetic compass does. This compass function should be turned off when you are walking so the map pointer will respond to the direction you are traveling instead of being "stuck on magnetic North".

Dave, you might turn yourself into a real "RocketMan" cooking that close to all that ammo! The snow didn't stop us from finding a few caches today after Santa left. Oh, BTW what time should we show up for dinner?

I almost always carry a caching pen but once in a while I forget it. (And that's when I seem to need it the most). Once I hiked back to the car to get a pen and another time I used a golf tee that was in the cache to punch 3 holes on the next line in the logbook. When I posted on-line I told the story and that the 3 holes = n0wae.

My story is a strange one... One of my hobbies was mapping jeep roads for myself and my jeep club. (And still is today) I bought my first GPS in 1992 when it went on sale for $1,350 (List price for the Garmin 100 was $1,795 at that time!) Hardly anyone knew what a GPS was back then. After the GPS prices dropped and selective availability ended I remember my wife showing me a newspaper article about Geocaching. I read it and pretty much dismissed the idea as being silly. How could finding a box hidden in the woods be fun? The years went by and at a Saturday breakfast with my Amateur Radio friends another Ham talked about finding a Geocache and that it was kinda fun. (It's all his fault!) So I thought I'd go find one myself with my newer GPS II unit.... I found it!!! It's been all downhill from there! My only regret is not being a Charter member so I could have enjoyed the addiction from the start.

Now I know why I'm mostly a lurker in the forums! Test Results: Your personality type is ISTJ. Introverted (I) 96% Extraverted (E) 4% Sensing (S) 59% Intuitive (N) 41% Thinking (T) 95% Feeling (F) 5% Judging (J) 73% Perceiving (P) 27%

October 4 by XXXXX (2542 found) It looked like the actual cache container may have gone out of reach with the way things were. Put a container where it should have been, hopefully this is ok. October 4 by YYYYY (2550 found) XXXXX and I found what we think is the main part of this hide. There was no container with it. So, together, XXXXX added a new log and I provided the new container. We both signed the log. DNF October 3 by Honest Cacher (39 found) Another micro not found. i spent at least 30 mins looking, and started swooning from the heat. In the fall i'd recommend taping your boots closed to keep the seeds out.

Google maps are such a fine tool for Geocaching. Not only do we get great maps but also satellite images to help us view GZ in all its detail. Now non-Ham licensed Geocachers can use Google maps to watch where their APRS Ham friends go via Google Maps. APRS use to be viewed exclusively by licensed Amateur Radio enthusiasts but is now open to everyone. It works similar to your GPS screen except that more than one icon (Mobil car/person) moves on the screen. Each "Ham" transmits his location apx every 3 minutes and Google Maps plots the transmitted "track points" on its maps for all to see! It's great to see Geocaching and Ham Radio share common ground. I think it gives me a new idea for a future GeoHam cache!

Looks like you guys had fun. Good to know I'm not the only "crazy" wheeler out there!

Can't find the cache? No problem, just replace the missing cache with one of your *own* so you can get that smilie!

Yea, Dave was complaining about my camper. I set the temp to 50° in my camper the night the temp dipped to 15° (I'm not that primative) Dave's tent on the other hand was so cold that Zeke climbed into his sleeping bag! The tent dishpan water froze and Dave even woke up next morning with frost on his facial hair!

A lost cacher has been found (and kidnapped!) Dr123d, Dave has been off-line due to some personal problems and needed a jump-start so I took him to the middle of nowhere for 9 days of hunting to get his mind of the cares of the world. We were roughly 45 miles away from Paonia in a remote primitive camp with only Amateur Radio as a link to civilization. We talked to several 'Hams' including Mrs n0wae (kc0qxo) and Cacher RkyMountainRose (kd0bqd). It snowed on us, the wind blew hard and the temps plummeted to 15° early in the week. We survived. (The weather warmed up later in the week.) Dave's dog Zeke was a hoot and entertained us with his antics throughout the week. We had a good time using our GPSers to find a different type of cache that tastes good. Dave was camp cook and did a fine job of cooking some very fresh steaks for us. We had a good time! Dave & horses at camp. The panyards are loaded with Elk quarters: Taffy (Mare), Dr123d (Male), Esquire (Gelding): n0wae with his '4x4 Buck cache': Bagged quarters hanging before loading: Dr123d and 'Zekester' the wonder dog:

If I'm reading your question right it's just a mater of math. Project a waypoint from P1 to P2 and if your GPS is set to miles just move the decimal point ... 1 mile =5,280' so 528'= .1 mile 475'=.09 422'=.08 370'=.07 317'=.06 264'=.05 211'=.04 158'=.03 106'=.02 53'=.01

Thanks for the info n0wae. That might be the article about the accident, but it definitely wasn't on Radical Hill. I plotted some tracks in Google Earth and it looks like they were on a side trail off of the South Fork Swan River trail. The trail they were on is near the Rainbow King Mine. Here is an overview of the area with a waypoint for the smashed Jeep coords that Uberquandary gave (notice it is not below Radical Hill): Here is a closer view showing the trial coming off of South Fork Swan: And here is a closer view yet where you can see the switchbacks they were probably headed down and the canyon below (notice that the switchbacks end): Last weekend zoltig and I were on a similar set of switchbacks heading down the back side of Santa Fe Peak after doing n0wae's cache up there. We turned around because the trail looked questionable and was probably similar to the trail those folks were on. I'm glad we did. RocketMan Very nice pictures Rocketman! Yes, I'm not surprised about the Press inaccuracies. It's quite normal for them to pick a nearby well known location that people can identify with. Most wheelers don't have Topo skills and only have a general knowledge of where their at when wheeling. Pathfinding is a lost art and GPSers are still too new. Anyway, I'm sorry some fellow wheelers had this mishap in this area. It makes me ponder about all the decisions I've made in the past to push a road or to use discretion and call it quits. I guess I've been lucky so far.

It might not show up in the pictures that well, but there was quite a bit of rust, especially on the roof. From our perspective the trail they fell off looked like it should have been obvious to avoid, and the ATVs we saw on top didn't go down it. And it just so happens we did mark the spot: N 39 30.114 W 105 51.430, in the environs of Webster Pass. I plotted your coordinates in my laptop for a look and noticed it was only 2.4 miles south of Radical Hill. There was a jeep accident in the area on July 28 this year. Looks like you might have found the jeep in question. A sad story but a reminder to the rest of us to be careful when wheeling these narrow Colorado trails.

Silly me. I thought the smilie was for finding a cache.