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So was trading in furs and fish a vital part of the economy until we learned to do without. but we still did it until we learned to do without, without being called criminals.

if you dont sign the log, you didnt find it. I need proof. If you forgot your pen. oooops, you'll have to come back

im a newb. the worst ive gotten is black widow crawling on my shirt and cockroaches scurriying up my leg

i'd subscribe..........right after i save up enough money after having to pay the huge premium membership fee

Which are located in the world, placed by people who live in the world, in areas of the world with unique issues that impact caching, boxes, and kids. Odds are if your kids found the cache mentioned by the OP they would not read the text on the box and open it up looking for swag. That would mean that they know how to focus on the fun, while the person reacting to the message and making a stand that it's all about the fun, and not the agenda, has found a way to let their agenda impact their own fun. in hindsight, i think the political message added to the fun, cuz posting in the forums is fun and i started this huge thread about that political message hunting cache................fun finding cache.................fun political message..........."a bit of a turn off" huge forum thread.........priceless

Quite a few actually. If there were no religious tracts etc. Nobody would hate them. They do have an impact. They do change how people think, even when they think they are immune. They may not change their mind on the exact idea presented. But there are changes. Case in point. Someone put a message on a cache and what do you know. A big fat discussion in the forums over it. Impact. Buzz, Hype, Debate. All generated from the equivilent of a a cache bumper sticker. I think it's best for everyone to act like grown-ups and ignore the things you don't like, or at least come to the forums and argue/whine about it. which is exactly what I did

wrong answer, but thanks for playing. nobody is ever completely neutral. nobody. ever. for the sake of this forum and this thread, i am neutral. of course if you want to hop over to a political forum i'll be happy to express my views

That is gooood. But seriously, I have nothing but respect for what Bono's done/doing. Caches are not allowed to have an agenda because it might offend someone. As we know by these threads there's not much that doesn't offend someone out there. I was just a little surprised that someone pointing the finger at people that are constantly breaking the law would be offensive. I guess maybe it would offend the anarchists... who is offended? Again I was speaking in general terms. I don't understand why one guy throwing some literature against illegal immigration into cache would bother anyone except of course the illegals. Its written on the cache, not an item in the cache. and there are tons of people who see illegal immigrants as a necessary labor group, etc. in this country. Plus they are tons of legal US citizens who are related to honest hardworking illegals who do a lot of good for the country. its not just illegals who would be offended by a blatantly anti immigration political message. disclaimer: i am completely neutral, I'm just pointing out a few facts. They are breaking the law.... maybe the law needs revision......since they are considered by many to be a vital part of our economy, etc.

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"nature deficit disorder" ----- he's kidding right? "Experts suggest a major factor in the decline of outdoor time is parental fears about leaving children unattended -- aggravated by excessive media coverage of horrific crimes." -----not so much as aggravated as much as caused "I think we as a nation need to wake up to this." -----the nation WILL wake up...and then hit the snooze button until it is too late

That is gooood. But seriously, I have nothing but respect for what Bono's done/doing. Caches are not allowed to have an agenda because it might offend someone. As we know by these threads there's not much that doesn't offend someone out there. I was just a little surprised that someone pointing the finger at people that are constantly breaking the law would be offensive. I guess maybe it would offend the anarchists... who is offended? Again I was speaking in general terms. I don't understand why one guy throwing some literature against illegal immigration into cache would bother anyone except of course the illegals. Its written on the cache, not an item in the cache. and there are tons of people who see illegal immigrants as a necessary labor group, etc. in this country. Plus they are tons of legal US citizens who are related to honest hardworking illegals who do a lot of good for the country. its not just illegals who would be offended by a blatantly anti immigration political message. disclaimer: i am completely neutral, i'm just pointing out a few facts.

do i get to choose when it is published or do i submit it and then it is published at a future time? basically, I would like for it to published about 9pm, to give night cachers first dibs on the cache.

Cache contents can have whatever agenda you like (as long as it isn't promoting the consumption of alcohol, tobacco, or firearms, by giving out samples ). The cache description, however, cannot. The reviewers sometimes discuss "is this an agenda?" among ourselves in excruciating detail - and don't always agree. It's quite strange seeing a devout Christian reviewer criticising a Bible-themed cache (which is generally OK) for crossing the line into proselytising, or a Democrat-voting reviewer nudging a cache placer to remove an adjective from a cache with mentions the President, but it happens all the time. So this cache is OK. It is interesting how hypersensitive some people are these days. I'm really not sure why that is.... I cant imagine you are referring to me. if so, please reread my original post to see that, at worst, i said that "the political agenda of the caches in the area are a bit of a turn off." does that sound hypersensitive? if anything, saying someone is hypersensitive when they say a cache is "a bit of a turn off" sounds more hypersensitive to me.

That is gooood. But seriously, I have nothing but respect for what Bono's done/doing. Caches are not allowed to have an agenda because it might offend someone. As we know by these threads there's not much that doesn't offend someone out there. I was just a little surprised that someone pointing the finger at people that are constantly breaking the law would be offensive. I guess maybe it would offend the anarchists... and then where does it end? I hope no one in my area is ever offended by ammo cans. It wouldn't be hard to make a flying leap between ammo cans and support for, oh say, the war on terrorism. I wish people would all get a little thicker skins and knock off the politically correct walking on eggshells crap for stuff that can easily be tolerated. This country was founded on tolerance. Like I said before, I don't view law enforcement of immigration as a political agenda. The other thing I want to mention is that in some parts of the country cachers occasionly get stopped by border patrol agents, so the situation is more real to those people. The agents I have run into are very cool. So the illegal immigration issue is a part of our game down here. oops. i accidentally posted this quote

If you frown on it, then you are may be classicly uncomfortable but you are moved to action. As for a one way discussion. That's an opinion. You are not forced to consider it at all. Life is full of these one way presentations of opinion. In a recent beer commecial I noticed that whatever the beer is it seems to imply that it's best served in rooms full of women who are only visible from the waist down who are great at shaking their behinds. I swear there is an opinion in that commercial but I'm still not sure what it is. Thats why I rarely watch tv. Because I know I'll see a bunch of ridiculous one way presentations of opinion. By the way "one way presentation of opinion" is worded way better than "one way discussion". Thanks for the clarification

That is gooood. But seriously, I have nothing but respect for what Bono's done/doing. Caches are not allowed to have an agenda because it might offend someone. As we know by these threads there's not much that doesn't offend someone out there. I was just a little surprised that someone pointing the finger at people that are constantly breaking the law would be offensive. I guess maybe it would offend the anarchists... who is offended?

i think the llama is fake, but since you suggest otherwise, I'm not sure. anyway, just offer it some ham. wow that is a real llama. awesome idea. bring some ham and you're good to go

i think the llama is fake, but since you suggest otherwise, I'm not sure. anyway, just offer it some ham.

i would only give a hint if it was a cache i placed. and even then i doubt i would hand out hints.

where do i sign?

I would somehow someway confuse all you people with your fancy gps's and pda's and figure out a way for only paper cacher's to be able to find my cache without spending 3 days walking 50 miles. That would be great.

get over it

it's not a cactus. thats about as much insight as i can add.

BTW, the paranoia in our cities and such is so ridiculous. I can't help but to wonder: did geocaching ruin the reception, or did law enforcement?