AKACRider

Yes I understand that. I was responding to a comment from right back near the start, but the person who I quoted didn't even remember their own comment and just assumed I was in off-topic land too... It was a mistake to enguage on both, I sort of let my pride get the best of me and got type happy. Oh well lesson learned, thanks for the response. ☺

Yes, plenty.unless old enough to drive isnt old enough for you. No, my point was that I wanted to make sure that you are not a child first because it seems that you just want attention. Can you not just mail your geocaching supplys that you will need to your vacation destination? How about just packing some extra logs in bags if you want to maintain some caches that you find. You can always buy a good ammo can at a sporting goods or a surplus store. Maybe post in the local forums and find another cacher in the area, or attend an event while you are there, or even host one of your own. :ph34r: Its not that Im LOOKING for it, but when some people start going out of context, and bringing up irrelevant things, It tends to look that way. But anyhow, thanks for the response MVPH I may just forget the helping othersxout aspect of things while im on vacation, after all, thats what vacation is right? ?

Yes, plenty.unless old enough to drive isnt old enough for you.

I'm still trying to figure out why that other thread was locked without comment. TPTB are truly a secret society. As I read the tea leaves, the door slammed shut a half hour after the "two cache monte coordinate switcheroo maintenance plan" was mentioned. I'm sure that creative NJ cacher was just joking.... There was a comment. The OP requested it to be locked. Oh and don't tell anyone, but near most of my hides are 2 more full containers 100 feet away.. Yes Ill be honest, i requested it to be locked, just as I may do this one in a day or two, I asked a question, to people with more expierience than me, I had like 30 finds, maybe, and got mu butt jumped by some people that seemed irritated. As I explained how Groundspeak had no rules on exact miles as long as it could be maintained,people were getting more angry, I was getting a bit defensive. wont lie, I wont hide my faults I had it locked so It didnt stray further, and so I didnt feel tempted to say somthing that I would regret.

+1 Cachers "improve" my caches at times, creating more work for me. I'd be very annoyed if someone unilaterally replaced a container (and especially if they have a habit of not saying so, in a cache log). +2 None of the replacement caches placed for my caches without first consulting with me have been "correct." Without fail, the original container was right where it was supposed to be and I removed the replacement container to recycle somewhere else if the container was worth recycling. Speaking of GCA, i sent you am email reguarding membership a few days ago.

You seem to be stuck on the age aspect of things, yes i will respect my elders, however i will will not be looked down on. Every three months, I travel roughly a 9,000 mile trip on my own, parents now with me. Now Im not by any means saying this to be a rebelious or what have you, there is a reason for it, but im not going into that now, I cache on my own, my parents have their things they enjoy, so do I, i share a story every now and again, so do they. But I dont sit there and pack, "ok, i got this this, this. This, 3 pairs of jeans and a rock" The way Im raised, and the way my parents see it, im on my own in 2 years, so i need to be ready for that, and need to be able to be trusted. But not to be rude, but there is now way to change how it comes across, that was my first ever post, I didnt realize how aggresive some people were going to be, and I really dont aporichiate whatever means you used to find out my age, it is not in my GS profile. You notice, the people whose parents treated thim like they were 2 intil they were 18 and let them go are the ones who wind up in a mcdonalds hat? Gotta teach the real world, the best way to do that is the real world from what ive seen, so Im happy with how my parents and I are going about things.

Hike 4 miles lugging an ammo can just in case? Wow! Ammo can isnt just for them,,its for me, but if it was a significant hide, Id replace it, and an empty e0 cal in your baclpack, not bad at all.

Well if they do find it, and they ask you, tell them it's for geocaching. Replacing logs is one thing (and I personally wouldn't do that unless I know the CO) or even offering/fixing a cache with the permission of the CO but this is neither. And it's still not your job to replace a cache. If the CO wants it replaced, they'll get it done, and get it done the way they want it done. What happens if someone is lazy and leaves a throwdown without even looking for the cache. Then you leave a throwdown (that's what you're doing, no matter how you try to justify it) then someone else does. Then next month there's 5 different caches, while the original is still there. Or if the "broken cache" really isn't the cache- same thing as above. Or what if th CO has had issues and says "next time I'll just archive it"? Or the CO is gone, and people keep "helping" by replacing the cache. The point is to just let things happen. If it's going to die, let it die. If it's going to be replaced let the owner make that decision. And if you replace the cache (let's call it ABC cache) you and the next finders really aren't finding ABC cache hidden by the CO But you're still taking credit for the find. And worse, depriving others of the chance to find the cache they thought they where looking for. Oh and if you even mention replacing the cache in while logging a found it on one of my caches- and there are others who will do the same- it's the same as logging a found it while saying you didn't find it, or saying you didn't sign the logbook. And it will get deleted- because again you didn't find my cache. Yea. Im probbably worrying about it wayyy to much anyway, probably just need to pack it and forget about it til I touchdown. Ok, Not trying to be disrespectful or what have you, but, i see where youre coming from, saying let things happen, and I agree to an extent, it it was not really significant to me or published within the last eh three or so years, let it go, its not for the long run. But if its uniqe, got lots of thought, or like 6 or 8 years old, i ain't gonna watch it get tossed because of a leaky box. If theres throwdowns, thats not my fault. The handfull of containers Ive replaced I took up the old ones, ( really bad shape, beyond leaky, like will not hold contents kind of bad. Animals, branches vandals ect.) put contents in my new one, did not mension in log, emailed CO, let them know I had the container remains if they wanted it for some reason. Told them exactly how it was hidden, and sent pics to them. If the owner is gone, helping it until its adopted or some other action is taken is better than geolitter. And my "rule" is if your name is on the log, its your find, and 99 precent of people I cache with say the same. So, just from my pov if I find your cache, destroyed by a squirrel for an example, your log, your swag still there, and I sign the log, and put your log, and your swag in a container that im giving to you, and put it back, camoed the same as you hid it, email and offer you your container remains, log my find, and its deleted, I will appeal that in a heartbeat. Especially if I know youre active in the gc community. Again not to start a cache measuring contest, just putting it out there how I see these things. If the owner is gone, it won't be adopted...Adding more throwdowns = more geolitter. But, hey...GC.com needs to adopt the rule that CO just throw out caches and finders take care of them. Might as well. You can't put in a DNF, as this will cause a cache to be TD/Archived. Can't post a note talking about the horrible condition of the cache or that the log is full: the CO will delete it or it will cause archival. Just make sure you repair and replace every bad cache and don't say anything about it in your log. If you don't find it, throw down a new container (who cares if you throw down a micro on a large sized cache) and claim you did. Might as well take our heads out of the sand and put all this down as the official rules, because that is how we are all supposed to be playing it. Sounds like fun! 1.Im not putting out throwdowns, its a REPLACEMENT, REPLACEMENT, REPLACEMENT. just want to be sure every one sees that word. And it is not on overy single messed up cache I find, for the second or third time now, loosing track, it is only on caches of some value that I even bother with. If I hike 4 miles in, and its an ammo can thats been there since 2007, and its full of waterand rusted up, hasnt been found in 2 years, and brings me to a nice place, ill replace it with an Identical one, when I hike i have an ammo can usually.ill contact you about it as I log. However, I wont replace your cracked film can, in the walmart parking lot published last month. And as an FYI ive NEVER, NEVER, NEVER put a throwdown. If I cant find it, which is somewhat rare, because Ill search for hour s, ill dnf it. Thats all there is to it. And i have not once to see an Alaskan CO start splitting atoms, because I put my own time, money, and effort into their cache, as an act of kindness. Because, quite honestly, I travel a good bit, and if had a squirrel or god forbid a moose or somthing get at my cache while I was out of town, if Hi saw a log that soneone had replaced it for me, and offered me the old container, id be stoked, because I wouldnt have to think about it while I was out of town, when Im home, Ill ensure it wasnt a throwdown, tell them to toss the old container, and if I saw them at an event or somthing, I would most likely slip them a few bucks or a bite to eat or somthing for doing me a favor, not turn purple and get delete button happy. And the reason I dont mension it in the logs, is, I dint want to seem like im looking for recognition or what have you, I want the owner to know, JUST the owner.

Well if they do find it, and they ask you, tell them it's for geocaching. Replacing logs is one thing (and I personally wouldn't do that unless I know the CO) or even offering/fixing a cache with the permission of the CO but this is neither. And it's still not your job to replace a cache. If the CO wants it replaced, they'll get it done, and get it done the way they want it done. What happens if someone is lazy and leaves a throwdown without even looking for the cache. Then you leave a throwdown (that's what you're doing, no matter how you try to justify it) then someone else does. Then next month there's 5 different caches, while the original is still there. Or if the "broken cache" really isn't the cache- same thing as above. Or what if th CO has had issues and says "next time I'll just archive it"? Or the CO is gone, and people keep "helping" by replacing the cache. The point is to just let things happen. If it's going to die, let it die. If it's going to be replaced let the owner make that decision. And if you replace the cache (let's call it ABC cache) you and the next finders really aren't finding ABC cache hidden by the CO But you're still taking credit for the find. And worse, depriving others of the chance to find the cache they thought they where looking for. Oh and if you even mention replacing the cache in while logging a found it on one of my caches- and there are others who will do the same- it's the same as logging a found it while saying you didn't find it, or saying you didn't sign the logbook. And it will get deleted- because again you didn't find my cache. Yea. Im probbably worrying about it wayyy to much anyway, probably just need to pack it and forget about it til I touchdown. Ok, Not trying to be disrespectful or what have you, but, i see where youre coming from, saying let things happen, and I agree to an extent, it it was not really significant to me or published within the last eh three or so years, let it go, its not for the long run. But if its uniqe, got lots of thought, or like 6 or 8 years old, i ain't gonna watch it get tossed because of a leaky box. If theres throwdowns, thats not my fault. The handfull of containers Ive replaced I took up the old ones, ( really bad shape, beyond leaky, like will not hold contents kind of bad. Animals, branches vandals ect.) put contents in my new one, did not mension in log, emailed CO, let them know I had the container remains if they wanted it for some reason. Told them exactly how it was hidden, and sent pics to them. If the owner is gone, helping it until its adopted or some other action is taken is better than geolitter. And my "rule" is if your name is on the log, its your find, and 99 precent of people I cache with say the same. So, just from my pov if I find your cache, destroyed by a squirrel for an example, your log, your swag still there, and I sign the log, and put your log, and your swag in a container that im giving to you, and put it back, camoed the same as you hid it, email and offer you your container remains, log my find, and its deleted, I will appeal that in a heartbeat. Especially if I know youre active in the gc community. Again not to start a cache measuring contest, just putting it out there how I see these things.

I dont by any means replace every one, but if I liked it ind its really bad, or god forbid I break another.

First off, just with the major crackdowns on the people by the tsa, i guess im just a bit concerned about them seeing all of those containers, all opaque, and thinking the worst or somthing else rediculous. Second, I take the caches with me everywhere I take the bag for fixing up hides if I find one wrecked, thats just what I do, and theyve actuall saved my butt once where I tried to open an older conainer that was seized shut and busted it.I let the CO know and I was lucky enough to have an Identical container in my bag. Ever since, about half of my containers live in my pack.

Been stared at alot, most times I tell them whats im doing; been confronted 3 times. Once the dude was pretty agressive, and been cop'd twice. Im getting stealthier. Lol

Anybody ever had issues with the TSA and their caching stuff? Im getting ready to fly with my entire caching pack, which ive always gole light, gps and stamp. Im just curious, being that ots got probably 15 bison tubes, 5 hollow bolts, a few tupperware containers, and all sorts of swag. Expeiriences, tips, stories, siggestions? Im open to it all, thanks in advance!

Ok, so I never really caresd too much about milage, but i figured id, give it a shot, im not completely blind to tbs, ive just never kept one myself. One of the people that I cache with does it with a travel bug, the thing is, he always logs its visit from home, after the fact. I am always a feild logger. Since Groundspeak has your home location recorded, could I log it in the feild and still get a good count? Any advice from the folks who have done this?

In MY case, i use only 50 cal,and 30 cal metal ones, plastic ones come to pieces when you try to open them at 40 degrees below zero.

Just my rule of thumb; if it is a good distance from home so maintainance is difficult, or it is an extremely elaborate multi, make it PMO, if not dont.

I think nanos need a size of their own on the listing page, because too many people are listing them as others. Who all agrees, who doesent? Has GS looked at this? Any other thoughts?

Ive found a way around it, when it says invalid and dissappears, go back and do the exact same thing again, and it goes.

Does falling through ice into water count? If so then yes, and the group I was with thought it was absolutely hilarious. once I got back on top if the ice and to the land I did too...

Less than 2 minutes. Went and placed cache, took coords, put listing together, submited, went for a cup of coffee, didnt make it across the housebefore I got the tripple ding of the published cache. ( 3 emails )

Are you saying that you'd replace the cache with a new container, or a new container and new listing? You don't want to replace a still-active cache without first communicating with the owner. In this case it may not be likely to hear back, but you should try that first if you want to adopt the cache and listing, take over the cache location, or anything else to do with that cache. Your NA log is a good start to get Greatland Reviewer involved (assuming this is an AK cache?), but you shouldn't change a cache that isn't yours. Meaning, if that cache is a D3, then sure, you could replace it with a like container in the same manner of hiding, etc to make it a D3. But if the cache is a D1.5, and you put down a D3 throwdown/replacement, you're changing the cache...which isn't really a good idea. I'll assume you mean that the cache was Archived and you want to place a new cache at that location. In that case, go for it! (So long as that location is a good place for a hide, where it won't be likely muggled or have other issues due to where it hidden, or how it is hidden.) I understand, Ive tried adoption, but what I was getting at was the fact that it was hogging a spot. Not the replacing it aspect, it would be a whole new listing, whole new theme, and container.

Which cache is that? On topic...Most Alaska State Parks have an iron ranger to pay $5 for parking. A Muni Recreation Area near North Pole also charges a per car fee for access. Washington State Parks has an access fee and permit process. Grand Canyon National Park, Denali National Park, Wupatki National Monument, Sunset Crater, Yellowstone, etc., all of which have at least EarthCaches and Virtuals charge an access fee. its not close close, but its one of the ones in the islands...

Are you a traditional cache person? Multi, gadget, earth, virtual, mystery, Wherigo, event? What size/difficulty/terrain? swag, no swag, trackables, no trackables? urban, rural? just seeing what the majority is into, just out of my own curiosity.

Fully submerged in the water isn't optimum, rust needs oxygen to form. It would be better if you could arrange a spray of salt water to keep the bolt moist, but fully exposed to the atmosphere. Or rig some kind of a contraption that occasionally dunks the bolt in a bath of salt water and then lifts it back up in the air. I missed that part of the question! Salt and bleach. The bleach provides the oxygen. This won't work, though, if the bolt is galvanized or nickle-plated (both of which are, of course, designed to prevent rust). The best bolt for this sort of thing is black iron. It will rust in minutes using the bleach/salt technique. It will also make a bit of a mess, so be careful where you do this! I dont know whst you have to work with, but if you have nickel plated or galvanized on hand but not black iron, you could media blast the coating off, just dont breathe it or over do it.

Please explain where you found a 3/8 "bolt" with a 14 thread. I'd like to find some, as they were used in woodworking machinery in the early 1900s. Modern day thread counts in 3/8 are 16 and 24. Oh, I'm sure he means 3/8"-16. So are you saying you have accomplished this feat in 8 minutes? Is the guy from post #62 just a slow fuddy duddy? 1 did mean 16- I was in a hurry tuping as I was fixing my breakfast, and Im not calling anybody slow, Im just saying how long it takes my - the jb weld setting up. And I usually use a drill press, vise and band saw, but I can still do it in 8 minutes with the extremely basic tool set, again not calling anyone out on anything, im just saying.